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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Jolly Green Giant wrote: |
History is replete with examples of takeover kings who inflict immediate damage on a state or country they happen to conquer. The same occurred at the JIC. Due to the low state of affairs, I guess that the new management team saw that they had to do hardest thing first; to cause damage in order to get the kind of college and the standards they required. Then, it was to inflict it at once and not a second or third time.
In this way, the worst was felt for one time only and later the minds of the JIC staff were set to rest. The Management's first succees here was to gain the immediate trust and confidence of the remaining JIC employees and they rewarded them for it with further improvements and benefits. Such a strategy is laudable and is a mark of effective leadership. |
Sounds like something one would hear coming from a table at the Chestnut Tree Cafe ....
And given that you're so taken by such historic examples of barbaric leadership, would you suggest unruly students be hung in gibbets from corridor light sockets like highwaymen ... or would you prefer the Elizabethan head on a stake outside the student canteen ... |
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Rennenkampf
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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''There is a will and determination to institute changes for the positive''.
That is what they said before the last purges.
Is this Giant-speak for the next Reign of Terror? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| They were doing these people a favour when they fired them. They all moved on to better jobs. |
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Rennenkampf
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Jubail Industrial College-Then and Now |
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The history of mismanagement
Who exactly?
Firstly and most practically, in 2005 the ELC Unit moved and was rehoused in a huge, brand new structure with cool, spacious classrooms and computer equipped faculty offices.
This was a year before the purges.The lift does not work and the ground floor smells of sewage.
Critically, there has been a new change of management.
'new change'?
The management who inflicted the purge are all still there.
Forward looking, progressive thinking has replaced the traditional. This new policy and attitude can be felt at all levels. Today, JIC is a totally different environment and it is getting better with each new day
Why is it permanently recruiting? |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| would you suggest unruly students be hung in gibbets from corridor light sockets like highwaymen |
Probably bring the roof down the way the place is built. |
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Jolly Green Giant
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Rennenkampf Can you guarantee that there will not be a repetition of this seasonal purge one week before the end of the semester this year? However, the question is will these vindictive purges against Westerners become a permanent torment at the JIC?
Jolly Green Giant As things stand, it seems highly unlikely. But, in this life nothing is guaranteed. If I were one of those who got fired, the question more to the point for me would be this. For the future, how do I guarantee that it won�t happen to me again? What should I avoid doing or saying and how can I be a better employee so that I will never be in a position to get fired again?
It is like the break-up of a long-term relationship. The injured party looks to the other as the cause of pain and the reason for failure. He rails, complains and accuses but he hardly considers himself and his part in the affair. The realization dawns when he sees his old flame arm in arm with someone new. Now, in spite of how things were, she/he is doing quite nicely without you, thank you very much.
By the way, the ELC elevator is in perfect working order and is reserved for less able-bodied students. The smell on the ground floor sadly has gone. To me, it always smelled like the scent of roses. |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Jolly Green Giant wrote: |
It is like the break-up of a long-term relationship. The injured party looks to the other as the cause of pain and the reason for failure. He rails, complains and accuses but he hardly considers himself and his part in the affair. The realization dawns when he sees his old flame arm in arm with someone new. Now, in spite of how things were, she/he is doing quite nicely without you, thank you very much.
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So you're intimate with the new management ... that would explain your take on things ... |
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Rennenkampf
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Jolly Green Giant wrote: |
Rennenkampf Can you guarantee that there will not be a repetition of this seasonal purge one week before the end of the semester this year? However, the question is will these vindictive purges against Westerners become a permanent torment at the JIC?
Jolly Green Giant As things stand, it seems highly unlikely. But, in this life nothing is guaranteed. If I were one of those who got fired, the question more to the point for me would be this. For the future, how do I guarantee that it won�t happen to me again? What should I avoid doing or saying and how can I be a better employee so that I will never be in a position to get fired again?
To me, it always smelled like the scent of roses. |
I.All of the victims of the purges were British and American nationals.How would you suggest existing American and British JIC/JUC staff change their nationalities before the next purge?
2.All of the staff stabbed in the back,some of whom had been at the JIC for eight years and others who had worked a 12 hour day dealing with recruitment,had received either 'very good' or 'excellent' in their annual appraisals which took place 3 months before they were terminated,one week before the end of the semester.
3.The former ELC director who selected names for the terminations on the basis of personal vindictiveness and then publicly laughed at his victims is now,according to Tefl.com in, charge of recruitment.
4.Is this why the smell of sewage has always 'smelled ' like roses to you? |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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The former ELC director who selected names for the terminations on the basis of personal vindictiveness and then publicly laughed at his victims is now,according to Tefl.com in, charge of recruitment.
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That's because the guy in charge of recruitment has not bothered to change the ads. They are placed yearly and only changed if the person responsible does something about it.
The good doctor is no longer at JIC. |
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usool
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: hahha |
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Hi
Jolly green is so green we can only assume it's because he's been decorating himself in the Saudi flag.
He says, which did make me laugh out loud in my office:
If I were one of those who got fired, the question more to the point for me would be this. For the future, how do I guarantee that it won�t happen to me again? What should I avoid doing or saying and how can I be a better employee so that I will never be in a position to get fired again?
Lets try this: In future I won't be brown. That'll stop them firing me. How about, in future I won't be black, I won't be Asian or Afro-Caribbean in origin. How about, in future I will bend over backwards to praise them and everything they do. In particular, in future I'll make sure the student is right 100% of the time and not only the 99% of the time I assumed. Yeah, if I do that then the Salafies/Wahabies are sure not to fire me.
Well I'm off to buy some skin lightning cream. |
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Jolly Green Giant
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Usool In future I won't be brown. That'll stop them firing me. Yeah, if I do that then the Salafies/Wahabies are sure not to fire me. Well I'm off to buy some skin lightning cream.
Jolly Green GIANT I agree.
Any such ELC organization should be put out of business for firing staff where skin color matters most. And of course it begs the question as to why in the first place anyone would wish work with an outfit if they were to behave in such a way? Why would you, I or anyone?
In this instance though, I fail to see the connection between the JIC purge and the racist behavior you describe. Or perhaps it is just a little rant you were having. Nearly all, the teachers who moved on from here were at best rosy red, some a tad sun kissed and most near the top of the institutional pecking order.
Gladly, racism was never an issue at the JIC campus nor should it ever be made one. But I am willing to accept that in other places it could be.
By the way I am more Giant, more Jolly than Green you'll ever imagine me to be. |
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Rennenkampf
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''Those fired were my colleagues and personal friends''
We believe you. |
Why won't you state the reasons your colleagues and friends were terminated with no warning?
Presumably you are close to the management you love. |
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007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: hahha |
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| ...Well I'm off to buy some skin lightning cream. |
Do not forget to buy contact lenses, with brown or black colour, so you will be perfect!  |
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Rennenkampf
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Rennenkampf"]
| Jolly Green Giant wrote: |
Rennenkampf Can you guarantee that there will not be a repetition of this seasonal purge one week before the end of the semester this year? However, the question is will these vindictive purges against Westerners become a permanent torment at the JIC?
Jolly Green Giant As things stand, it seems highly unlikely. But, in this life nothing is guaranteed. If I were one of those who got fired, the question more to the point for me would be this. For the future, how do I guarantee that it won�t happen to me again? What should I avoid doing or saying and how can I be a better employee so that I will never be in a position to get fired again?
To me, it always smelled like the scent of roses. |
I.All of the victims of the purges were British and American nationals.How would you suggest existing American and British JIC/JUC staff change their nationalities before the next purge?
2.All of the staff stabbed in the back,some of whom had been at the JIC for eight years and others who had worked a 12 hour day dealing with recruitment,had received either 'very good' or 'excellent' in their annual appraisals which took place 3 months before they were terminated,one week before the end of the semester.
3.The former ELC director who selected names for the terminations on the basis of personal vindictiveness and then publicly laughed at his victims is now,according to Tefl.com in, charge of recruitment.
4.Is this why the smell of sewage has always 'smelled ' like roses to you?
Why can't you answer these very simple points?
The epistemological key to the Jolly Green Giant's verbal fresh air spray
is his inability to tell the very marked difference between the gentle aroma of roses and the more pungent tang of sewage.
I don't think he is an intellectual Giant,his deficiencies being dialectical as well as olfactory.
Nobody can rationally defend the arbritary sacking of 40 Western staff as the praiseworthy act of an enlightened management.
The management team which imposed this purge and then chortled with glee is still in power.Nobody knows when the next purge will take place and who will be knifed.
The 'new building 'is actually shoddy,but it would not negate the viciousness of the purges if the ELC building were the Waldorf Astoria.
No amount of sub grammatical poorly written verbal morphine from a
hack can obscure the hard facts. |
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Rennenkampf
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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JOLLY GREEN GIANT wrote:''If I were one of those who got fired,the question more to the point for me would be this.For the future how do I guarantee that it won't happen to me again?''
How do you GUARANTEE not getting fired in an indiscriminate attack on the staff?
Can you you GUARANTEE that you will still have a job
at the JIC next year? |
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