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philjapan
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: The big 4 (Nova, GEOS, AEON, ECC) - email confirmations |
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After applying to the big 4 schools about 3 weeks ago,(Nova, ECC, AEON, GEOS) I have only been contacted by last two. Unfortunately they weren't interested, but gave me some good advice!
My question is: DO all these schools notify you if they are or are not interested in your application?
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Omeo
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm not a teacher yet so I wouldn't know anything about it, but out of curiousity, what were your qualifications? I'm curious as to why only the last two responded and told you they weren't interested without even meeting you. That seems pretty odd to me from what I've read about other peoples experiences. Last I heard, NOVA was desperate for teachers and they were doing a hiring blitz, so you'd think THEY'D get back to you. Anyway, just wondering what you told these people that would make them respond to you this way. My only guess is that maybe you're over-qualified.  |
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Dipso
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| I applied to GEOS last year and they didn't respond at all - not even to acknowledge my application. I have a CELTA and several years EFL teaching experience, by the way. Hmmm... |
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philjapan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: Qualifications |
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I have teaching experience, ESL and other classroom experience. Although I have post secondary education, unfortunately I don't have a Bachelor's Degree.
AEON actually were kind enough in sending me a lengthy email explaining how to find a part-time english teaching job.
It's been nearly 4 weeks now since I applied to Nova and ECC... |
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furiousmilksheikali
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Qualifications |
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| philjapan wrote: |
I have teaching experience, ESL and other classroom experience. Although I have post secondary education, unfortunately I don't have a Bachelor's Degree.
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That explains the rejections. Do you mind telling us where you're from, how old you are and how much EFL experience you have. This will determine whether or not any of the companies will take you. |
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philjapan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| I operated my own multi-language tutoring business sporadically for about a year and half. I speak and teach 3 languages. I'm 30 years old, but I look like I'm 25, or at least that's what all my friends tell me... |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| philjapan wrote: |
| I operated my own multi-language tutoring business sporadically for about a year and half. I speak and teach 3 languages. I'm 30 years old, but I look like I'm 25, or at least that's what all my friends tell me... |
Well, if you were thinking of working for NOVA then a working holiday visa may be the way to go. But I believe you have to get in before you are 31, which doesn't leave you much time (There are no loopholes to exploit just by "looking 25"). The WHV is only open to nationals of certain countries.
Also, three years teaching experience is usually required to qualify for a Specialist in Humanities Visa, you don't have enough experience to qualify for that.
So, things don't look too good on the Big Four front I'm afraid. |
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Omeo
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, again, I have no actual experience with this, but from what I've read in countless other posts, I think it's safe to say you're over-qualified. The ironic lack of a degree probably didn't hurt, either.
Say, not to alter the course of the thread, but I didn't know about this whole be-there-before-you-turn-31 rule. They're not gonna hesitate over the fact that I'm 29, then, right? |
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womblingfree
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Dipso wrote: |
| I applied to GEOS last year and they didn't respond at all - not even to acknowledge my application. I have a CELTA and several years EFL teaching experience, by the way. Hmmm... |
That's probably why they didn't get back to you.
The big eikaiwa's prefer people with little to no experience or training. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Dipso: Have you tried the JET Programme? Rumor has it (from G Chthulhu here) that JET is more and more interested these days in hiring people with teaching qualifications.
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| Say, not to alter the course of the thread, but I didn't know about this whole be-there-before-you-turn-31 rule. They're not gonna hesitate over the fact that I'm 29, then, right? |
That's a rule for working holiday visas. Pretty strict about it, but that's immigration. For Brits, they actually want some special situation before they consider people between 25 and 30.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
Phil: I agree with sheik. You are either going to have to get that degree or 3 years of FT teaching experience to qualify for a work visa. Other than that, your options are pretty limited.
WHV (are you even eligible by nationality? If so, you probably won't get work here for more than 6 months.)
student visa (are you willing to enroll in a school here as a FT student and then just work PT?)
cultural visa (you'll need to study some craft under a master who is willing to sponsor you, and then you could only get permission to work PT on the side).
Not much else. |
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philjapan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I appreciate the advice, but in actuality I do posses a Working Holiday Visa, I got in a week before my birthday.
If all esle fails, once I arrive in Tokyo, I'll be calling on GABA and Berlitz! |
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Dipso
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
Dipso: Have you tried the JET Programme? Rumor has it (from G Chthulhu here) that JET is more and more interested these days in hiring people with teaching qualifications.
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I have already done JET, as it happens! (Which is possibly another reason why Geos didn't want me, I suppose.) I am quite happily ensconced at Aeon for the moment, so being blanked by Geos turned out for the best in the end. I don't have much of an idea what to do next, however. I don't have a Masters so I suppose my options are limited to eikawas and the like.
Anyway, sorry for the slight thread hijack, Philjapan.  |
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Omeo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
Omeo wrote:
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| Say, not to alter the course of the thread, but I didn't know about this whole be-there-before-you-turn-31 rule. They're not gonna hesitate over the fact that I'm 29, then, right? |
That's a rule for working holiday visas. Pretty strict about it, but that's immigration. For Brits, they actually want some special situation before they consider people between 25 and 30.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
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So I'm fine as a 29 year-old American. Good. What happens after you turn 30? I know you can still teach past 30. Do you go to a different kind of visa then? Is a working holiday visa the kind most teacher have? Sorry I'm behind on this, but it's an area I hadn't thought much about yet. |
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ripslyme
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Omeo wrote: |
| Glenski wrote: |
Omeo wrote:
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| Say, not to alter the course of the thread, but I didn't know about this whole be-there-before-you-turn-31 rule. They're not gonna hesitate over the fact that I'm 29, then, right? |
That's a rule for working holiday visas. Pretty strict about it, but that's immigration. For Brits, they actually want some special situation before they consider people between 25 and 30.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
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So I'm fine as a 29 year-old American. Good. What happens after you turn 30? I know you can still teach past 30. Do you go to a different kind of visa then? Is a working holiday visa the kind most teacher have? Sorry I'm behind on this, but it's an area I hadn't thought much about yet. |
ummm... no, you're not fine as a 29 year-old American for the Working Holiday Visa. Did you not read the link? The USA is not on the list of countries that Japan has WHV for. |
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Omeo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| So what kind of visa do I need, then? |
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