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acquisition
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: dumb question |
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I haven't found anything on this topic using "search," so here goes...
After getting the Celta, I got a good teaching job, but after only a few weeks, some bad personal problems came up (long story) and I had to quit and go home. I know it's wrong & unprofessional to leave a contract when the employer has treated you well, and I still feel guilty about it. Aside from this, I'm a responsible person and I couldn't see such a thing happening again, but does having this in my history make it impossible for me to get another decent TEFL job overseas? (Also, since I came home, I've gotten a few months' experience teaching ESL here and I'm expecting a good reference..) Any thoughts?
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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I wonder what the consensus here is on the ethics of just leaving it off your CV. A gap of only a few weeks shouldn't stand out too much, and it sounds like you've got other teaching experience to include. But then, that might be considered dishonest. I'd like to hear what the folks who do interviewing and hiring have to say. I really don't know about this one...
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been_there

Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 284 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Well, from the viewpoint of someone who has had to hire teachers (and had one or two go AWOL), I would say "Leave it on."
Of course, that is not going to help aquisition any. If I were his guidance couselor, I'd say leave it off, but honestly answer the question, "what were your last 3 jobs and why did you leave them."
And make darn sure you can prove to your next employer that it won't happen again. |
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saint57

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 1221 Location: Beyond the Dune Sea
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Ethics?
I'm lucky I haven't been sent to prison for some of the mistakes I've made. They certainly won't appear on my resume.
What's wrong with saying you were travelling for a few months? |
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Sheikh Inal Ovar

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 1208 Location: Melo Drama School
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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You'd have to be mad to tell them ... especially in the beginner world of TEFL where schools are less than forthcoming to prospective clients about the experience and qualifications of some of their staff ... |
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Dragonlady

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: Re: dumb question |
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acquisition wrote: |
I haven't found anything on this topic using "search," so here goes...
After getting the Celta, I got a good teaching job, but after only a few weeks, some bad personal problems came up (long story) and I had to quit and go home. I know it's wrong & unprofessional to leave a contract when the employer has treated you well, and I still feel guilty about it. Aside from this, I'm a responsible person and I couldn't see such a thing happening again, but does having this in my history make it impossible for me to get another decent TEFL job overseas? (Also, since I came home, I've gotten a few months' experience teaching ESL here and I'm expecting a good reference..) Any thoughts?
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Yep. Dumb question. |
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ShapeSphere
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 386
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Leave it off your CV. It was only a few weeks. You felt guilty and realise it was wrong and will hopefully not do it again. If you were a really bad person - you wouldn't be posting the question - because you wouldn't care.
It wasn't a dumb question.
A Chinese student once told me I had blue eyes. I told her, "they are brown". She asked, "are you sure?".
Now that is a dumb question. |
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GWUstudent
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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I also don't think its a dumb question. I always tailor my resume for the job I'm applying for, and have a section titled "relevant experience." I then list any experience I have had relevant to that position. I leave some jobs off. No big deal. If the employer then gives you a formal application to fill out, its still up to you whether you want to list a position you held for just a few weeks.
I have never felt obligated to list random temp positions I had for a week or so while in college or in between jobs. I wouldn't worry about it. If you have a solid recommendation from your current employer, that should suffice. |
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acquisition
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the thoughtful replies, everyone! I don't like being dishonest, but I think I'll probably leave it off the CV as I feel it doesn't reflect who I generally am as a teacher. However, that leaves me with one problem: the cancelled visa is permanently stuck to my passport. Do you think that will be a problem? Will an employer be looking through all the pages? |
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Jetgirly

Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 741
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised that your high school Career and Personal Planning (call it what you will) teacher didn't address this topic in the tenth grade! It's not up for debate. Leave it off. |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Don't be a ding-a-ling - leave it off! No one will query a gap of a few weeks, and even if they should ask, just say you were travelling. It's essentially true. |
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sallycat
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 303 Location: behind you. BOO!
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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i'd say leave it off. i assume the personal problems aren't anything you would feel like explaining to an employer in an interview. |
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