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womblingfree

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 826

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject:

rampo wrote:

Apparently you didn't know that the word merely describes someone who goes at it alone, by choice or by necessity (i.e., no sponsor).

Thanks for the information rambo.

If you don't have the appropriate visa then you won't even get in the country unless you're being smuggled in an oil tanker.

The secret of setting up in Japan without any assistance is to have very good Japanese ability and a lot of money.

Failing this you will need considerable assistance from a Japanese speaker and someone to 'hold your hand' until you have a job and some cash to set up by yourself.

The true 'maverick' would find a cheap gaijin house, get a job in a bar, and charge Japanese people to have a cup of coffee with them.

Livin the dream.

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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 1660
Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject:

womblingfree wrote:

rampo wrote:

Apparently you didn't know that the word merely describes someone who goes at it alone, by choice or by necessity (i.e., no sponsor).

Thanks for the information rambo.

Wombligfree, please don't bother with flame posts like this.

womblingfree

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 826

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject:

furiousmilksheikali wrote:

womblingfree wrote:

rampo wrote:

Apparently you didn't know that the word merely describes someone who goes at it alone, by choice or by necessity (i.e., no sponsor).

Thanks for the information rambo.

Wombligfree, please don't bother with flame posts like this.

Read post + Read posters name = Too good to resist Razz

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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 1660
Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

womblingfree wrote:

furiousmilksheikali wrote:

womblingfree wrote:

rampo wrote:

Apparently you didn't know that the word merely describes someone who goes at it alone, by choice or by necessity (i.e., no sponsor).

Thanks for the information rambo.

Wombligfree, please don't bother with flame posts like this.

Read post + Read posters name = Too good to resist Razz

Whatever! Do yourself a favour. Rampo, like a few other posters here have proven themselves to be stupid and unfit for whatever they are supposed to be employed as.

Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:00 am Post subject:

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The secret of setting up in Japan without any assistance is to have very good Japanese ability and a lot of money.

The five people who have responded so far would disagree with you on the first point. So would I. Yes, some Japanese would be good, but not necessary, especially if you live in Tokyo.

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Failing this you will need considerable assistance from a Japanese speaker and someone to 'hold your hand' until you have a job and some cash to set up by yourself.

Or you could just not come at all and try to get hired by an outfit that hires from abroad. Or you could just do what the five others who have already posted have done...

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The true 'maverick' would find a cheap gaijin house, get a job in a bar, and charge Japanese people to have a cup of coffee with them.

Perhaps this is your idea of a "true maverick", but it is illegal to work without a visa, even in a bar.

If we assume that a "true maverick" knows how to plan in advance, that person would research ahead of time what sort of employment opportunities there are, how to make a resume and cover letter, maybe even invest in a TEFL/TESL certificate, and then send out letters before landing in Japan, to maximize their chances of getting hired in the shortest possible time. Upon landing, they would re-contact those potential employers, network their butts off from that gaijin house, keep looking for work, and eventually find what they really want instead of taking on illegal work and risking deportation and being blacklisted from returning.

But maybe we're confusing the terms "true maverick" and "successful planner".
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womblingfree

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 826

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:42 am Post subject:

Glenski wrote:

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The secret of setting up in Japan without any assistance is to have very good Japanese ability and a lot of money.

The five people who have responded so far would disagree with you on the first point. So would I. Yes, some Japanese would be good, but not necessary, especially if you live in Tokyo.

I said 'without assistance' Rolling Eyes

Glenski wrote:

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Failing this you will need considerable assistance from a Japanese speaker and someone to 'hold your hand' until you have a job and some cash to set up by yourself.

Or you could just not come at all and try to get hired by an outfit that hires from abroad. Or you could just do what the five others who have already posted have done...

I was replying to the gentleman asking how to go about things without being hired from abroad. Do keep up young man.

Glenski wrote:

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The true 'maverick' would find a cheap gaijin house, get a job in a bar, and charge Japanese people to have a cup of coffee with them.

Perhaps this is your idea of a "true maverick", but it is illegal to work without a visa, even in a bar.

This is my idea of a very depressing life! I have stated that being here without a visa will potentially get you locked up in prison and deported and you probably wont even get into the country unless it's in a barrel. Getting a job in a bar, strip joint, etc, without the appropriate visa is illegal but very easy.

Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:46 am Post subject:

I count six responses, and a lot of pollution. Enjoy, s

kinshachi

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Sydney

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:59 am Post subject:

Thanks Glenski, for properly defining "maverick", at least as far as I understood the original question. Indeed, the whole point of going it alone was to be able to go for the mid-level jobs that only hire people in the country already, as opposed to the entry-level eikaiwa gigs, which is just about your only option for sponsorship from overseas. I had a CELTA and experience teaching English in Australia, so I wanted to find a job where I could use my skills and, ideally, enjoy the work enough to be able to stay awhile, instead of job-hopping and moving house again later - and I did (find the job I wanted, that is)! I still haven't done any privates, nor any illegal work...

Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:32 am Post subject:

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Indeed, the whole point of going it alone was to be able to go for the mid-level jobs that only hire people in the country already, as opposed to the entry-level eikaiwa gigs, which is just about your only option for sponsorship from overseas. I had a CELTA and experience teaching English in Australia, so I wanted to find a job where I could use my skills and, ideally, enjoy the work enough to be able to stay awhile, instead of job-hopping and moving house again later - and I did

Just what do you call a "mid-level job"?

kinshachi

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Sydney

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:46 am Post subject:

Glenski wrote:

Just what do you call a "mid-level job"?

One that requires qualifications, training and experience beyond a bachelor's degree, and appreciates or makes use of such, usually with better pay and/or conditions. Generally, something between the big-chain eikaiwas and university.

Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject:

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Yup, that matches my idea. What did you find without having taught in Japan before, if I may ask?

rampo

Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:10 am Post subject:

furiousmilksheikali wrote:

womblingfree wrote:

furiousmilksheikali wrote:

womblingfree wrote:

rampo wrote:

Apparently you didn't know that the word merely describes someone who goes at it alone, by choice or by necessity (i.e., no sponsor).

Thanks for the information rambo.

Wombligfree, please don't bother with flame posts like this.

Read post + Read posters name = Too good to resist Razz

Whatever! Do yourself a favour. Rampo, like a few other posters here have proven themselves to be stupid and unfit for whatever they are supposed to be employed as.

So... you can't provide a useful or appropriate response, so you ASSUME something about my skills or employment status from my question when you know next to nothing about me.

Really smart.

I was merely asking for anecdotes. If you can't offer any, then I think you're the troll.

kinshachi

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 50
Location: Sydney

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:

Glenski wrote:

Yup, that matches my idea. What did you find without having taught in Japan before, if I may ask?

Without getting too specific, it's full-time at a private college, teaching adults in full-time intensive courses. Quite similar to the kind of courses I'd been teaching back home...

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