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Two Christians face 9 years jail time in Turkey!
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ghost



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Two Christians face 9 years jail time in Turkey! Reply with quote

Two Turkish Christians face a total of 9 years behind bars for spreading words considered ``anti Turkish`` in their efforts to convert Muslims to one of the Christian faiths.

The two individuals face 9 years in prison, because their acts are considered ``�llegal, immoral, and against the interests of Turkey.``

One of the Christian Turks studied English at one of the Language schools which many of the readers on this forum are familiar with, and the same individual was considering a career as an English teacher.

Ghost very much regrets what happened to this individual, and although he may have offended people, one feels that 9 years behind bars is a steep price to pay for a political opinion, no matter how unpalatable that opinion might seem in the eyes of many Turks.

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ElizabethBennett



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes let's hope they get help. I wonder if Amnesty knows. The principles of tolerance, and every religion having validity, sometimes do not seem to be applied to the Christian religion as they are to others. Christianity, like Islam, is by definition a missionary religion so I suppose to be fair then, either all or no religions should be 'allowed' to preach their message. What authority does any state have over an individual's right to do this or not anyway? Nine years is definitely too harsh. Let's hope they get help and get out quicker.

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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElizabethBennett wrote:
Yes maybe other EU states should help them with their appeal to reduce the sentence, bearing in mind Turkey is now in the EU is it not?


It is not.
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ElizabethBennett



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops. Thanks for setting me right Furious. I see the process has all been horribly held up, one of the issues seemingly being freedom of speech-related hmmmmm......but I am open to being proved wrong.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElizabethBennett wrote:
but I am open to being proved wrong.


"open to being proven wrong."
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Golightly



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

proved/proven; both are valid. A bit like Catholic/protestant, Sunni/Shia etc.
Amazing how our language reflects the illogical absurdities of belief.
Which gives rise to the (admittedly stupid)idea: Is English (or the teaching thereof) a faith?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLing is definitely a faith. A pretty weird one too.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that means I am losing my religion as well as my ability to speak coherent English... Laughing
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howmucharefags



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't correct grammer here..most of us are drunk when we post
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TeachEnglish



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. That is if what the people have done is a crime. Maybe they actually have broken some laws. They are Turkish and should know their own laws. But we all know how laws work here, they don't. This place is a legal nightmare. It's all about who you know and who you blow. Twisted Evil
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