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jillford64



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: FM3 en Tramite Reply with quote

In another recent post, Tim mentions that once you are "en tramite" for your FM3 visa it doen't really matter how long the process takes as far as being legal in the country.

I assume this means you are legal to be in the country even if it takes longer than the 30 days, but you are not legal to work? Presumably a lot of people work anyway?

Does anyone know if it is possible to leave the country when you are en tramite? The reason I am asking is I would like to go home (to the US) for christmas break, but I am en tramite don't have my FM3 yet and I suspect it won't be finished by then.

I went to migracion (in Morelia) this morning to check the status and the woman helping me searched the whole office and said my paperwork wasn't there. Unfortunately, my language skills are so bad that I couldn't figure out if it was just lost or if the paperwork gets sent somewhere else for processing. She told me to call or come back on December 9.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: FM3 en Tramite Reply with quote

jillford64 wrote:
I assume this means you are legal to be in the country even if it takes longer than the 30 days, but you are not legal to work? Presumably a lot of people work anyway?

Does anyone know if it is possible to leave the country when you are en tramite? The reason I am asking is I would like to go home (to the US) for christmas break, but I am en tramite don't have my FM3 yet and I suspect it won't be finished by then.

Again, I think it depends on the particular immigration office. Technically, a person can't legally work until he has his work visa in hand. However, the immigration officers here in Merida look the other way during en tramite and have actually told me that there would be no problem working during that time. Then again, here in Merida it doesn't take nearly that long to get an FM3 issued or renewed.

I hesitate to use the word "standard" when discussing anything in this country, but I think it's standard procedure to request a letter from your local immigration office to accompany your en-tramite form if you want to travel out of the country while your work visa application is being processed.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, around here it's also standard to have to pay for that letter. It's not a lot, but not free. Somewhere around 200 pesos I think.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: FM3 en Tramite Reply with quote

Ben Round de Bloc wrote:
Again, I think it depends on the particular immigration office. the immigration officers here in Merida look the other way during en tramite
Yeah, it really varies from office to office. Here they're very strict and are more than eager to fine you if you are 'en tramite'.
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scottmx81



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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Location: Morelia, Mexico.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Morelia immigration office will not let you leave the country while your FM3 is en tramite.

I can't say for sure what the punishment is, but they won't give you your FM3 if they find out you did without permission. You'd at least have to start the process over again.

Don't leave the country without a special written permission from immigration if your FM3 in Morelia is en tramite.

I don't think it is a good sign if your papers "aren't there". You should get a bilingual person to go with you when you go next time.

If it is any help, I'll be in there tomorrow morning probably between 12 and 1 if you need someone to help you out.
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jillford64



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott, Thanks for you offer of help with translating.

In the continuing saga, yesterday afternoon migracion called and asked me to come back this morning with 3 SAT5 forms so I could pay the $1686 peso fee, which I did. This time they had a folder that appeared to be my paper work. So I paid my fee and they told me my FM3 wasn't ready yet, but they would call when it was. I asked how long and she said a week, mas o menos.
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, they have a special form to fill out in order to get permission to leave while you are en tramite. Not too much of a hassle to get, I had to get it a several years back.

I remember in el DF, I got my first FM-3 in 4 weeks, faster than others because I visited the office every week and I remember during week 2 my paperwork was lost. I can only imagine how long it would have been if I had waited the 4 to 6 weeks they told me to check on it.
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jillford64



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all who offered information and advice. I am happy to report that I am no longer en tramite. I got my FM3 today. Whoo Hoo! The entire process took 56 days and required 4 visits to migraci�n.
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Ms. Atondo



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jillford64 wrote:
Thanks to all who offered information and advice. I am happy to report that I am no longer en tramite. I got my FM3 today. Whoo Hoo! The entire process took 56 days and required 4 visits to migraci�n.


Congratulations! FYI and I wish I had been able to tell you this sooner but "younger" "cuter" immigration officer (who is also a twin) in Morelia speaks English. Well now you know in case you have to go back for any reason!

Hope you are enjoying Morelia!!!!
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms. Atondo wrote:
Congratulations! FYI and I wish I had been able to tell you this sooner but "younger" "cuter" immigration officer (who is also a twin) in Morelia speaks English. Well now you know in case you have to go back for any reason!


A twin eh? I should have popped in when I was living there, but since I was technically working in Oaxaca, I never reported to anyone that I was "living" in Morelia. Well, I hope he's still there if we decide to go back.

Congratulations Jill, I hope you enjoy your holidays at home!
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jillford64



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His name is Alex. I never got to speak with him, but I heard him talking to another person and he speaks English quite well. He was there the first time I visited the office but not the other times, so I am not sure if he only works certain days or if he isn't working there anymore. There is another girl, Laura Sandoval, who speaks a little English.
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