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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Japanese Law Requiring Health Checkup? |
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Hello, I have lurked for a long time. I have not seen this question yet, so here goes:
I was offered placement for ECC and am waiting on my visa. I leave at the end of January.
In the initial email I recieved confirming the offer, there were several attachments. Some for processing the visa and others for a pre-employment Health Checkup. The email said the health statement can be arranged separately upon a final placement.
I got placed last week.
One of the attachments said that by Japanese law you must have the health records to them by a full month before you arrive in Japan. Okay. But then it says they must be dated three months prior? Whoa!! I don't have enough time to do that, the three month deadline has passed.
This was in the attachment sent. Yet in the email I get one about a week ago say that an appointment should be scheduled ASAP. ??? I'm confused. Does this mean I'm out of luck? Anyone? What was your experience?
Does the mandatory health statement and chest x-ray have to done 3 months in advance? Or will I be fine?
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: |
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ECC is lying to you, there's nothing like that in Japanese law. Be prepared to by lied to by ECC on a daily basis when you get here.
http://www.generalunion.org/ecc/ |
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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
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yamanote senbei wrote: |
ECC is lying to you, there's nothing like that in Japanese law. Be prepared to by lied to by ECC on a daily basis when you get here.
http://www.generalunion.org/ecc/ |
Do you work for ECC? |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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What I think the "three months prior" means is that the records should be less than 3 months old. That often seems to be a requirement for documents in Japan. It may be a mis-translation of the Japanese.
That makes sense if you think about it- the health check needs to be fairly recent or it is meaningless.
Good luck with ECC- Yamanote Sembei tends to focus on (and maybe exaggerate somewhat) the negative points of various employers, but don't let it make you think you've made a mistake. |
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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Well that makes more sense!!! Thanks!
I just figured no one really bothers to read attachments they send out when done en masse. So perhaps it was an oversight. But yes, a poor translation appears to be a better reason. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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feisty-red wrote: |
One of the attachments said that by Japanese law you must have the health records to them by a full month before you arrive in Japan. |
This is a lie.
Blaming this or the three months issue on a poor translation reflects even worse on ECC, a company employs hundreds of supposedly qualified English teachers who should have easily spotted and corrected that mistake, if it was a mistake. ECC runs its own "foreign language college", which even has a translation department. I'm sure that they must have at least one person there qualified to translate Japanese to English.
http://hello.ecc.ac.jp/kcfl/course/senior-translate/ |
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chirp
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 148
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Translation is a very tricky business. Two people could translate the identical paragraph differently. It's not an exact science.
To the OP,
Most companies will ask for some basic health checks before you arrive in Japan and most BoEs (I know this part doesn't apply to you) will require different levels of checkups. All BoEs now require TB tests to be completed prior to your arrival in Japan.
If you have any concerns about what they are asking for, check with ECC. I agree though that it is not "Japanese law", but rather company policy to ask for these checks.
Don't worry about the timing - you're fine.
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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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What is an OP? |
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Dipso
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 194 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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feisty-red wrote: |
What is an OP? |
The original poster - ie. you! |
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Venti

Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Kanto, Japan
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:27 am Post subject: |
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feisty, when you have any concerns about important work-related paperwork (or anything work-related at all), call your recruiter first. They're used to getting questions from panicked newbies. |
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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:10 am Post subject: |
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OP...original poster...doh!!!
And I did contact my recruiter. Unfortunately I can not log into my email now. Computer appears to be on the fritz. Or maybe yahoo is just messed up now. |
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Firestarter
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 55
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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yamanote senbei wrote: |
Be prepared to by lied to by ECC on a daily basis when you get here. |
For example? |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: |
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When I came in I worked for a small, not especially good eikawa and they said nothing about any health checks. I work for a BoE now and I just had one two days ago, which is apparently mandatory for all employees, once a year. It consisted of a sight test, a chest examination, a blood pressure test, a pis s test, and an Xray. We also got weighed and our height taken. I missed out on a blood test because they only do them every five years or something, ie. 25, 30, 35 years old.
It was nothing to worry about. I hope they actually give us feedback if something is wrong but I imagine its just to satisfy their curiosity. Besides a 'oh, very, very good' for my blood pressure I didn't learn anything other than that I should stop eating so much fried chicken. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Firestarter wrote: |
For example? |
Subshifts are a way of life at ECC. ECC couldn't operate without them. ECC subshifts are illegal.
(Clear Statement of Working Conditions)
Article 15. In concluding a labour contract, the employer shall clearly state the wages, working hours and other working conditions to the worker. In this case, matters concerning wages and working hours and other matters stipulated by Ordinance of the Ministry of Health, Labour & Welfare shall be clearly stated in the manner prescribed by Ordinance of the Ministry of Health, Labour & Welfare.
2. In the event that the working conditions as clearly stated under the provisions of the preceding paragraph differ from actual fact, the worker may immediately cancel the labour contract.
3. In a case under the preceding paragraph, in the event that a worker who has changed his or her residence for the work returns home within 14 days from the date of cancellation, the employer shall bear the necessary travelling expenses for the worker.
Article 120. A person who comes under any of the following items shall be sentenced to a fine of not more than 300,000 yen:
(1) A person who has violated the provisions of Article 14, paragraph 1 or 3 of Article 15, paragraph 7 of Article 18, paragraph 1 or 2 of Article 22, Articles 23 through 27, paragraph 2 of Article 32-2 (including a case where the same provisions are applied correspondingly under paragraph 4 of Article 32-4 and paragraph 3 of Article 32-5), paragraph 2 of Article 32-5, the proviso to paragraph 1 of Article 33, paragraph 3 of Article 38-2 (including a case where the same provisions are applied correspondingly
under paragraph 2 of Article 38-3), Articles 57 through 59, Article 64, Article 68, Article 89, paragraph 1 of Article 90, Article 91, paragraph 1 or 2 of Article 95, paragraph 1 of Article 96-2, Article 105 (including a case where the same provisions are applied correspondingly under paragraph 3 of Article 100), or Articles 106 through 109; |
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feisty-red
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: |
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What exactly is a subshift and how do they work? They told us you show up to a branch and then get sent where ever you needed. And you might not be needed. |
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