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[Van Norden]

Jim Larkin? I thought it was Ars�ne Wenger!

Lisa is a worthy replacement.

[scot47]

Robert

Parnell was hardly one of the men of 1916 ! You just failed your term paper in Modern Irish History !

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[bryanlorin]

"I never said that the article "spells trouble" for the place. What I meant was that Al-Yamamah was clearly under fire here on this forum and then when I stumbled upon the NYT article, I thought I'd share it and provoke some further discussion, as it does touch on what previous discussions have been about. That's all. I'm definitely not against the college - I think it's great that it's there and I always have. I have defended it before on this site."

You are right. My interpretation of your brief comment was ungenerous.

[fishjock]

Back to pre Lisa - I'd thought it was Michael Collins. Probably due to a DVD cover with Liam Neeson striking a similar pose.

[Queen of Sheba]

[maryfrances]

[quote="robertinarabia"]That's the problem with TEFLER's these days- everyone thinks he's a cultural expert simply because he languishes in an alien culture. So who cares about plays and veils and all that stuff, honestly, I hate it when they try to westernize themselves, all they achieve in creating is a sad pathetic cultural distortion of both the west and the Islamic world. I prefer the rustic Saudis, I find them genuine and sincere and not bigoted in the least. Some of the most hateful are those who seek to ape the West and have had misdealings with it. It would be better all around if Saudis were forbidden by their government from travelling abroad, no good comes of it. They should not be allowed out. Satellites ought to be confiscated as they only waste their money calling Lebanese chat lines anyhow. The most repressive and rigorous interpretation of Islam ought to be applied to control the people here. I object to picking up the " Arab News" which I read in the expectation of blood, military violence and the all around trampling of humanity and instead get what...? Nonesense written by Saudi women moaning about the niqab and the Abaya. But guess what, we're not interested! We don't care if you are locked in a box all day or allowed out, all we want is cheap oil and money- and for Saudis not to get in the way. The best way to keep Saudis out of the way- quiet, passive and silent is to divert their attention with holy books and prayers, when they're doing that they're quiet enough. Among themselves they can do whatever they like, the more religious they are the better, after all, the alternative is a drunken chump, we're not going to get the oil any cheaper if we westernize them are we? The one thing that can be guaranteed to keep the Saudis stupid is religion, it's got to be a good thing, hasn't it?
Poor TEFLER's cosying up to Saudi liberals, you just don't get the program, and probably you're not mean to get it either.[/quote]

This is dead on. I know Al-Ya and some of the neat people who try to teach there. I also know a sleazy admin and an utterly cuckoo approach to learning. Silly, and stunting for their Saudi kids. This is absolutely correct in facing the conflicts that teacher must confront. What crap, self-serving crap to say that we are "not going bring our Western values into the classroom." Whose are you going to bring in? How can you explain forbidding listening to Beethoven or Ray Charles? Why are the holy books pushed as the answer to all questions? So this means screw scientific inquiry, artistic exploration Shame on you any anyone who disrespects learning, innovation, creativity, tolerance. Go examine your conscience and think about what it means to be human.

Al-Ya deserves to be punished, for greedy, mismanagment and broken promises.

[veiledsentiments]

I do think that this thread has reached the twilight zone...

VS

[Queen of Sheba]