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[Stephen Jones]

Well it's nice to have robert own up to his nationality, though I suspect his fellow yanks won't be that pleased.

The American flag may well still be flying; as the consulate is in the middle of my university I'll have a look on the way home if the concrete walls and sentry towers let me have a look in. The dollar has however collapsed and that is why BAe are getting 25,000 SR as opposed to the 16-17,000 they were getting a few years ago on the same salary minus danger money.

The word you were looking for by the way was stereotype. Cliche is refers to language.

Oh, and Betty Azar is American. And if you're forced to teach her it is probably because you are doing the Aramco course, either at JIC or Aramco, and the Aramco course was written by Americans (Aramco = Arabian American Company).

[Stephen Jones]

[dmb]

It's all part of the final plan Stephen... keep the Malt to the Celts.

(Way off topic I know. Why don't the Welsh specialise in Whisky? I thought the Jones' of the world were Celtic cousins )

[robertinarabia]

Mr. Jones. He's back! That's nice to know, and KFUPM is a better gig than WSJ in Khafji. You can't actually see the flag from KFUPM but you can from the bridge. This is just great, he is a wealth of information on KSA, very well informed and very fair minded ( we'll forget that stuff about the siddiqi). Now when Mr. Jones applied to Khafji I was dead worried as you wouldn't believe the tales, now you wouldn't, no sir. Now it's all ok, he's at KFUPM and he'll help and guide us all for months and years in Dave's. Now what about JIA and the teachers strike, what does he have to say about that? My posts keep getting pulled, doesn't seem fair does it? Just for the general position, JIA teachers haven't been paid properly and are going on strike. Mr. Jones was in Jubail, what does he know about JIA?

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[ALPH]

Robert .. c'mon ma'an .. where can i buy the goood sidiqii here ? . This filipina stuff i'm drinkin is turnin me stomach clean inside out .. you sort the Sid, i'll sort the blow ok ? ah c'mon man .. cut me some slack here

[Stephen Jones]

Never applied to Al-Khafji. Must have been another Jones; there are enough of us.

I had never heard of Jubail Industrial Academy till it was mentioned on this forum, so can add little original.

Before the other thread on the topic was pulled I suggested the staff contact a lawyer. There is an excellent one in Khobar recommended by the British Consulate that we used back in 1999. However the real problem with being owed small amounts like one or two months salary is that the lawyers fees (which are necessary as you will want to leave the country and let the lawyer pursue it) amount to a fair chunk of the compensation. And of course, if the company is really up the spout there's not going to be any money to pay you anyway.

The labour law has been translated into English, and there is a link to the translation on this forum. Bearing in mind that transfers from one private e,mployer to another have been permitted since October 28th, and that the previous employer cannot prevent that if he has not paid the salary for a specified period of time (two months I believe), I think the staff should get themself informed and polish up their resumes.

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[mouse5]

So BAe turned you down.

[robertinarabia]

First, the most important thing, Mr. Jones has given sound, middle of the road and unbiased advice concerning the debacle at Jubial Inustrial Academy. He fulfills the role of unofficial ombudsman in this forum in my opinion. The law center that I know in Khobar is the Al Marri office on Dhahran Street in Khobar, don't know if that's the one you mean exactly but anyhow, I 'll pass your advice along.
Now concerning BAE, there is always a sad inevitability when anyone crticizes a company that he will be automatically accused of having applied to that company and failed. This is one of the ways the TEFLER mind works- maybe I am just disgusted by BAE's stupid waste of resources in the light of ENRON? I have never applied to BAE as I don't meet their basic criteria as a passport holder (thankfully).
You are going to find that BAE will go the way of LANDROVER in the future. As for danger money, pah, danger money, are they in any more danger than the rest of us? Danger money, US soldiers in Iraq get just a few hundred dollars a month combat service incremement, Brit soldiers in Afghanistan get less. Danger money, the only danger they're in is falling asleep in the class because their work is so easy. It's the moral equivelant of sitting on the front porch with a can of bud dusting the planks with your butt 8 hours a day, you call that work? BAE teachers haven't done a days work in their lazy Brit lives. TEFL isn't work for Christ's sake, you want real work, drive a truck from Baghdad Central up to Taji then come and talk about work. Or go down a mine of something, that's work. TEFL isn't work, who said it's work? They get money for nothing, nothing. You should write it to one of the really good Brit newspapers like my all time favorite- ' THE SUN', that's a smart read in my opinion, and the headline can be this, " BAE SPLURGES ON TEACHERS PAID JUST TO STAND FOR 4 HOURS". Brits will love it, they think just like me in the main. Most support our war of terror too, it's only their quasi third world BBC that misleads them into getting confused somewhat, but they're on board. It's only the liberal elite who aren't in the UK, their version of Ketchup Kerry etc.
It's just corporate sloppiness, and BAE will pay the price as will their shareholders - government subsidizers. Do they know that TEFLER's are getting 26,000 riyals for standing in a windowless class with their hands in their pockets watching the students fill in the gaps? Personally, I don't consider it a lot of money in the real world, I save 16,000 riyals a month but I have other sideliness too, it's not that big a deal, it's the principle, get it?

[robertinarabia]

Alph, jeez man, I forgot Alph. Now do you know Khobar well, Alph? I guess so, do you know King Fahad street, go down that and turn right then right again so that you are at the hospital. There's a hole in the wall place and they'll sort you with the real deal- a tad pricey let it be said, but it's original, not cheap Sidiqqi where you risk getting toxic hepatitis if you're not careful. This place however was raided about 6 weeks ago, I am not sure what's going on, but a business like that only ever relocates. Khobar remains good in the main. But it's pricey so be ready to part with about $80-130 for anything worth drinking. As for the blow, Alph man, I gotta tell you, I don't agree with drugs having been heavily influenced by the " Just Say No" campaign. And it's for lousy hippies. I hate hippies almost as much as BAE.

[ALPH]

Cheers, Robert. You the Man. Take no prisoners. You said it, Dude. Hippies suck. Bae sucks. Standin round watchin me students (suck) fillin in gaps for 1/2 the salary Bae teachers are gettin sucks. But you know .. nothin sucks more than a bad sidiqii.
Keep on hatin' Bob .. someone's gotta do it

[Stephen Jones]

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