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Cultural Extremes in Alexandria?
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stoth1972



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Same here, VS. Didn't get to the Pyramids at Giza until my last week in Cairo. Hey-you see them everyday!!! Having done the Nile cruise and visited Sakkara, I felt I had a good dose of ancient Egypt up to that point. I think if I came to Cairo as a tourist, I would not have liked it. I would expect it to be a lot like my visit to Istanbul-a lot of hassle.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am an ancient history/archaeology nut... so it was a visit as a tourist that caused me to move there within the next year. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
stoth1972 wrote:
..... and ancient woman who never missed a prayer (when she was in our flat) was cheating us left, right, and centre. Left such a horrible taste in my mouth.

Unfortunately, this is the reality, some people they look from outside like doing prayers and so on, but in their daily life are 180 degrees opposite to their religion requirements. So, don�t be surprised if an Egyptian (not all) swears that he is honest, but in reality he is cheating.
And, I think, the Islamic scholar Sheikh Mohamed Abdo (18th century), was right when he said: " I have seen Muslims without Islam in the Arab world, and seen Islam without Muslims in the West".
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Human nature... nothing to do with any race, nationality, or religion...

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GlobalDawg



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: MHMinx--I'm Curious Reply with quote
Hi MadhouseMinx,

I'm curious as to why you are interested in getting a CELTA certification.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't know if she is still around, but I expect it is for the same reason that most people get one... because it is accepted by all employers, whereas many certificate programs are not.

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GlobalDawg



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: CELTA & Egyptian Salaries Reply with quote
We made contact via private message, VS.

Your point about CELTA certification very well may be the case. But, with her background she didn't need it, nor did she need the particular certification she acquired. Yet, the need for CELTA may be greater in Egypt. I've taught in four Middle Eastern countries and Korea; I've worked with only one colleague who has CELTA. It seems to be a highly over-rated certification.

On another note, can anyone tell me what is considered an average high-end salary in Egypt? Are there positions in which one can make 20,000 to 25,000 EGPs per month? This range may be laughable considering that the higher percentage of foreign teachers in the Middle East are Egyptians. However, I have been told that such a salary range is common among Western administrators in education. Is there any validity to this? What is the average salary for a college prof?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree totally that it is over-rated, but those that over-rate it are the employers... though not in Egypt so much as in the Gulf. Laughing

I have no idea on salaries for professors... does this mean that you have a PhD? The best pay at university level is at AUC if you have the credentials.

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GlobalDawg



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: CELTA & Salaries Reply with quote
Interesting that you suggest that the certification is in greater demand in
the Gulf. I was thinking that it is in greater demand in Egypt. As I indicated, I've only had one colleague that holds that certification in the Gulf.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Got the PM...

I was at AUC in Cairo and no one had the CELTA. It was something that I ran into in the Gulf because I taught with mostly Brits... and their attitude was that it was of much more value than an MA... but that was because they mostly had CELTAs and few had MAs. Cool

But I have already admitted to ignorance of the situation at the primary to secondary situation around the ME.

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