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The end of TEFL
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biffinbridge



Joined: 05 May 2003
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Location: Frank's Wild Years

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: The end of TEFL Reply with quote

I've been a qualified EFL teacher for almost 12 years and taught in England,Poland,the Czech Republic,Qatar and Libya.I've had some really good experiences and met some great people.At the moment I am not teaching.Why not?Because the salaries are becoming ridiculous even by EFL standards.It's insane when positions in Libya are advertised at 1200 quid/month or jobs in Saudi are going at 1600.It used to be that people taught in great places for a decade or so and then went to the Gulf to save a bit but you just can't do that now unless you are lucky enough to work for BAe.EFL is just a series of sideways moves no matter where you are.Rarely is experience remunerated adequately.Once you have kids it's a real struggle.People don't teach because they are money mad but you need to earn enough to live and retire....this industry just doesn't cut the mustard in that respect.
It's not just about the lack of financial reward though;increasingly,private language schools are employing more non-native speakers and we are being sidelined.I've worked in several schools in which the native speakers had no real input,in effect, we were just part of the marketing gimmick and this just gets you down.
In the Middle East teachers are treated awfully as they are in Poland etc but often for different reasons.In Poland the bosses just have bad man management skills,in the Middle East they rarely have any skills.Employers lie about your visas,your overtime,your net and gross rates,your accommodation and god knows what else because often you are at their mercy once you've committed financially to a move overseas.
Maybe I'm being cynical,but I've seen the damage of a career in EFL reflected in the fifty- something -year- old brigade out in the Gulf .Most of them are scr*wed and they know it.It's an industry rife with ageism,sexism,racial discrimination and plain exploitation,which will eventually end when everyone speaks English.The sooner the better.
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saint57



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Beyond the Dune Sea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EFL is just a series of sideways moves no matter where you are


The moment I feel myself moving sideways, I'll move out.
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guangho



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conventional TEFL is a dead-end. I have seen Korean EFL veterans, on the peninsula for fifteen, twenty, twenty-five years, saddled with kids. a wife and no prospects. But isn't that partly TEFLers fault too? Where does anyone get off thinking that merely being born in a Western, English-speaking country is sufficient for a career? Without skills, education and a sense of responsibility with regards to career development, what does anyone really expect?
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rossttuedu



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my case I've never really looked upon TEFL as a career choice but more as a segway to other career opportunities. TEFL allows you to travel and live in exotic countries and have cultural and linguistic interaction. This experience can be advantageous to other career paths such as business, sociology, anthropology, or international studies, to name a few. I for one have always wanted to be a teacher, atleast for a little while, but I plan on moving on after a couple of years.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: The end of TEFL Reply with quote

biffinbridge wrote:
I've ... taught in England,Poland,the Czech Republic,Qatar and Libya.
You've never taught in Asia or Latin America? It's a bit different there. You can save some half-decent money in some Asian countries, and while you may not save much money in most of Latin America, you can afford a decent life.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This experience can be advantageous to other career paths such as business, sociology, anthropology, or international studies, to name a few. I for one have always wanted to be a teacher, atleast for a little while, but I plan on moving on after a couple of years.
This is what all new grads kid themselves. In fact your years abroad will be viewed as wasting time, and if you don't get back home quick the door will shut on you for most of those careers.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This experience can be advantageous to other career paths such as business, sociology, anthropology, or international studies, to name a few. I for one have always wanted to be a teacher, atleast for a little while, but I plan on moving on after a couple of years.


This is what all new grads kid themselves. In fact your years abroad will be viewed as wasting time, and if you don't get back home quick the door will shut on you for most of those careers.


How lovely and positive. I have a good friend who teaches in the international studies department of a US college and who constantly emphasized the importance of time abroad for their graduate students.

Time abroad, learning languages and cultures isn't viewed as time wasting.


Best,
Justin
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Sgt Killjoy



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thin you have to move up the food chain in TEFL and that means dropping the bouncing around from job to job, country to country and finding that one place where you can build up a career. That means eventually leaving the grunt TEFL work and moving into more lucrative services. Maybe managing a school, maybe selling TEFL books for a publisher, maybe doing tefl training, anything that moves you higher up the value chain.
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shuize



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
How lovely and positive. I have a good friend who teaches in the international studies department of a US college and who constantly emphasized the importance of time abroad for their graduate students.

Time abroad, learning languages and cultures isn't viewed as time wasting.


Best,
Justin

The fact that your friend is in a university position as opposed to the business world should tell you something.

It's my opinion that learning languages and cultures is fine. But unless you can link your language skills to another skill th