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matador



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: American English? Reply with quote

Are most Japanese students more comfortable learning American English as opposed to, say, Australian or British English?
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most have no idea what the difference is and most probably don't really care about the differences because given what American English, British English and Australian English have in common the differences are rather slight.

However, if your students are taking TOIEC or TOEFL tests then the preference would be for American English and if they were taking the Cambridge proficiency tests then the preference is for British English.
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callmesim



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised when I tell students the differences they tend to adopt the British / Australian pronunciations. Though this could be just a ploy to try and impress me.

As I tell students though, Japanese comes from Japan, French comes from France and English comes from England and if you look at English speaking countries, usually the odd one out is America. Very Happy

Personally, I think it's a conspiracy against sign-writers and advertisers where you usually pay by the letter. Someone in America obviously wanted to screw these people over and decided to be economical with their letter use! Twisted Evil

P.S. The moon is made of cheese!
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littleturtle



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second that - they usually cant tell the difference.

Many JTEs will ask you to teach american english. I often agree to this, and then carry on teaching my own country's language instead.
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wolfman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being from Kentucky I have a bit of my own twist on American English.

Such as "one two three four fAAHve"

or

"lets eat some AAHce cream."

some students pick up on this i think. some of them repeat it
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Dipso



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littleturtle wrote:
Second that - they usually cant tell the difference.

Many JTEs will ask you to teach american english. I often agree to this, and then carry on teaching my own country's language instead.


Are you a JET? When I was a JET ALT I was told on quite a few occasions not to use British English spelling when writing on the whiteboard as it would "confuse" the students. So much for internationalisation!

There was one infamous case of an Irish ALT who was told she must learn to speak with a standard American accent and was given CDs so she could practice at home! The Board of Education got into a lot of hot water, as I recall.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
English comes from England
...and a lot of other countries.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardon the interruption but maybe those of you teaching in Japan can settle a point for me. What is more commonly taught...British (and variations) English or American? Or neither I guess...World Standard (Fictional) English?
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sallycat



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

japanese standard fictional english.
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say American English is dominant, especially when it comes to the CDs they listen to in classes and on tests.

Students have to get used to British or Australian pronunciation if they have a British or Australian teacher. But they can and do.

Some Japanese teachers have preferences for British or American English.

But the way grammar is taught, with its focus on sentences, it seems like British English from 200 years ago, or at least real formal English.

the TOEIC has been changed and it is not just American English anymore.
Australian English can also be heard on the listening part.


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sallycat



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks wrote:


But the way grammar is taught, with its focus on sentences, it seems like British English from 200 years ago, or at least real formal English.



from 200 years ago in an alternate reality.
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cornishmuppet



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm British, and an ALT. I teach whatever spelling it says in the books, occasionally pointing out a difference just for interest's sake. But when a JTE I worked with in my previous school asked me to do the listen/repeat part in an American accent (because that's what was on the CD and she was a real stickler for following the book) I refused. I said she could play the CD then. She wasn't too amused, but I got my way, mainly because I couldn't actually pronounce 'badmin'n' or 'mount'n' particularly well.

Saying that, while the books might have an annoyingly strong American accent, some of the English is from no language I know.
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