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DavefromWandsworth

I�ve been in Michocan for 4 weeks now and play football twice a week and run once or twice too. I know my body and its limits well but have never been so knackered when exercising! I tire so easily here and feel like an old man. Apart from lowering my expectations -like not trying to dribble past other players, or to sprint much- anybody got any tips on how best to adjust? Someone recommended taking a muscle relaxant (robaixal) after a workout. Thanks.

delacosta · Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach

Chew coca leaves?

mapache · Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 202 Location: Villahermosa

Dave, here's a web site that may be of help:

http://www.sportsdoctor.com/articles/altitude.html

I lived in Colorado for a while and my visitors' symptoms included increased apetite, shortness of breath and fatigue. The shortness of breath is the main concern so I would have them take it easy in exercise. More food and more sleep seemed to take care of the others.

good luck

DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject:

DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject:

delacosta · Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 325 Location: zipolte beach

Well right now what with the 7,000 cops assigned to the state and yesterdays announcement of the transfer of 10, 000 military to the PFP I don't think that looking for drugs of any kind is a good idea.

What's going on in Morelia? Is the police presence being felt, or is it mostly in the rest of the state?

Part of the reason, or perhaps the main one, for the Michacoan operation is the emergence a short while ago of the Asociacion Popular de los Pueblos de Michacoan (APPO but Michoacan). The fear being that the well armed and well financed narcos would collude with the new group, sending shivers through the new administration.

Will the pre-emotive strike serve its purpose? Probably not. The narcos won't be bothered too much-those that are considered a threat to stability,the political organisations, will be removed from the scene.

If, however, the narcos are financially affected by the operation, then it may indeed serve to create a narco funded guerilla movement not only in Michoacan but throughout the country-a la Colombia with the government on one side funding right wing para military groups (once again see Oaxaca) and the drug industry supporting supposedley left wing insurgents.

jillford64 · Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 397 Location: Sin City

Here in Morelia, APPO have had a small on-going demonstration in the plaza on the east side of the Cathedral for many months. The size varies, but there has not been any violence that I know of. Mostly it is just an eyesore. I have not noticed an increase in police presence here in the city, but maybe I don't go to the right (or the wrong) neighborhoods. People have mentioned that there has been an increase in violence related to drugs and that gangs are moving drugs along a certain highway, but I am not sure exactly where. The consensus seems to be that as long as you aren't involved in drugs, you won't have a problem.

Sorry we hijacked your thread, Dave.

DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject:

lozwich · Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536

I live at 2600 metres, and when I arrived I was a vegetarian. Imagine my surprise when walking home from the morning shift at work and thinking about what tofu-oriented delights I could concoct, I'd be overcome with incredibly strong cravings for raw meat. Shocked

(The Japanese restaurant round the corner from my place helped out with that, by the way! Very Happy

)

I did some reading, and basically your blood vessels need to grow to compensate for the thinner air. I took lots of iron tablets for a while, and then just gave up on the vegetarianism. I'm a bit out of shape for other reasons at the moment, but I have always found when living at altitude that there is a limit to how much you can adapt, unless you live there for a long time. Consarn my friends born at a great height! Very Happy

One plus is, when you go back to sea level you are blessed with super endurance for a few days!

Good luck.
Lozwich.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:59 am Post subject:

DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:

My adjustment has improved significantly after 6-7 weeks of frequent exercise (football- playing; jogging) here in Morelia. I�ve nearly regained the speed and stamina I had in the UK. Taking a muscle relaxant (robaxisal) after sessions helped me recover better. Patiently accepting the limitations, while calmly looking for improvement, helped as well. I didn�t get round to obtaining or chewing coca leaves, so I can�t comment on the efficacy of that remedy.

I hope these observations help someone.

MELEE · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject:

I'm glad you are adjusting to live in beautiful Michoacan, my second favorite state in the union.
Coca leaves are generally used at much much higher elevations than Morelia. Morelia is 6,399 ft. above sea level. The definition of High Altitude starts at 8,000 ft/2400 meters. (according to the outdoor action program at Princeton. ) Coca leaves are generally used by people living at High Altitude. I think delacosta was being tongue and cheek.
For those who don't want to resort to muscle relaxes should find taking it easy for the first month and easing into life sufficient in any Mexican Cities. The Andes, is another matter. Wink

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DavefromWandsworth · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:

Thanks - the Princeton webpage contains some useful information. Even if its definition of high altitude is valid, I don�t find it helpful. For the avoidance of doubt I too believed the �Coca Leaves�suggestion to be flippant, as seemed to me evident from the previous posts.