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[NathanRahl]

LOL Andrew, your wasting a lot of time andf money. You need the same paperwork when you go to HK, gotta have all the proper documents, same as if you get the visa at your local entry exit burea. However, your spending ten times the cash once you factor in the travel, extra costs, why would you make the trip to HK just for a visa?

Folks, same paperwork, just takes seven days instead of one, but if you get the proper visa in your own town, the wait is no big deal, and the exit and entry burea gives you a receipt in lieu of your visa while they have your passport, so you don't get in any trouble if asked for it in the meantime.

Do not take Andrews advice, he is just uninformed, and it is this type of lack of info that has cost many no here who have asked for good advice a heck of a lot more money then they need to spend. Take care all.

[NathanRahl]

LOL Andrew, your wasting a lot of time andf money. You need the same paperwork when you go to HK, gotta have all the proper documents, same as if you get the visa at your local entry exit burea. However, your spending ten times the cash once you factor in the travel, extra costs, why would you make the trip to HK just for a visa?

Folks, same paperwork, just takes seven days instead of one, but if you get the proper visa in your own town, the wait is no big deal, and the exit and entry burea gives you a receipt in lieu of your visa while they have your passport, so you don't get in any trouble if asked for it in the meantime.

Do not take Andrews advice, he is just uninformed, and it is this type of lack of info that has cost many no here who have asked for good advice a heck of a lot more money then they need to spend. Take care all.

[Malsol]

[jeffinflorida]

I once got a visa in the mail... I was pissed because i ordered a Mastercard...

[andrew_gz]

Nathan scribbled, "You need the same paperwork when you go to HK, gotta have all the proper documents, same as if you get the visa at your local entry exit burea."

You are wrong.

You don't need the same paperwork.

All that is needed for an F visa in HK/Macau is a photo, a passport and money.

That's it.

[Malsol]

[Steppenwolf]

[andrew_gz]

Stepinitroger slurs, "A lot of misinformation and disinformatsiya in this thread!"

And then proceeds to prove his point
"Of course, for anyone to obtain an 'F' visa they have to demonstrate that they come to China in the described capacity, i.e. 'F' is for BUSINESSPEOPLE or short-term teachers; the former have to own a business in their country of residence and typically, they must supply a name card.

Maybe the requirement but not the reality.
As he tells us in his next stumble:
"Itl is tyure, though, that TRAVEL AGENTS in HK do not inspect your credentials; they make money and don't have scruples in selling you an 'F' visa. They get such 'F' visas because they enjoy a special status with the Guangdong P.S>B. as go-betweens in bringing to China and to the Canton Trade Fair foreign businessmen.

Scruples?
Your claim is ridiculous.
As is this:
"This is why I always point out that an 'F' visa obtained from the local police station is NOT the same as an 'F' visa bought in HK!"

Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true.
Why do you persist in spreading this "misinformation"?
"In HK, there is less paperwork - but paperwork there is. You submit your passport and hand in two pics plus the casdh; you get your passport back within 10 to 24 hours."

No Roger!
That is not paperwork.

I stand by my claim:
ALL you need is a photo, your passport and the cash.
No paperwork.
Not a form to be filled.
I know of many FTs who have taken this route.

For some reason people like Nathan and Roger want to muddy the waters.
Be careful when looking for information from this forum.

[NathanRahl]

Andrew, the only troll, err, I mean person, who is muddying the waters is yourself. Your harping on minutae and splitting hairs, basically saying nothing different then Steppenwolf, but simply argueing over semantics. Your no different, and in fact worse because of your hypocrisy.

I think Steppenwolf, despite what I see as him often derailing other threads for personal reasons, is quite right in this instance. Yes, you can indeed go to some travel agent and get an F visa. You don't need anything but yur passport, money, and pictures, but they do, in fact they provide the rest. Thats what your paying for, them submitting a copy of a business license and invite letter.

I do not actually see your point, since, if you go to the visa offices in HK you yourself actually do have to provide the same paperwork as you do in the mainland, invite letter, a copy of your inviting companies business license, the works. I do not see what your point is, and if I may say, it seems like this has become personal for you, and that you are disagreeing just to vent anger and to, well, disagree. Thats what trolls do Andrew, please stop it and calm down.

If your going to respond to posts, please have a response that is not totally contradictory, and based solely on semantics used as a cover for your real purpose, personal attack and venting, thats just childish.

Good bye, and take care of yourself.

[Malsol]

[NathanRahl]

I am sorry you feel that way Malsol. I do not know what you mean when you say put up or shut up, is there some kind of competition going on ehre I don't know about? You need to get a hold of your anger my friend, and stop taking life, and this sight so seriously. I feel sorry for you. Good bye.

[Bayden]

[Malsol]

[NathanRahl]

Actually I mentioned how much it cost, yuo need to read my original thread on the subject, the one you and others got locked for being to troll like.

As for being taken seriously, who are you? I think yuo have too big an opinion of yourself if you think you speak for all the expats on this sight, which you seem to think you do.

Consequently, regardless of, or because of it, I have never taken you seriously, so big deal *shrug*.

[Malsol]