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JRJohn
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 175
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: I Want To Know AboutTeaching In Public Schools With Interac. |
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Hi, everyone,
I am an English teacher from the U.K. I have taught in Spain, Turkey, Poland, and South Korea. In Spain I had a rich social life, but the jobs were crap and and gave me a financial headache). In other countries pay was much better, but I had a bit less fun.
Recently, I decided to try the public sector:it seems better regulated than some of the private schools. What is it like to teach with Interac? I've been offered a job with them in Fukushima(the city or prefecture, I don't know which). The net salary is 230000 yen per month. Has anyone worked with Interac? Could you list your experiences?
The one problem I have is that for reasons I won't divulge now, I would really prefer to teach in a city(not Tokyo, necessarily). I'm worried that they have chosen a small town for me, which I would dread. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Interac is hardly public sector. It's a bloody pimp agency that should DIAF.
Do yourself (and everyone else) a huge favour and don't provide these sheisters with any more employees. Their entire operation is illegal under Japanese law anyway -- they should get shut down. |
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markle
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 Location: Out of Japan
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Interac is the opposite of what you are after, poorly regulated/ operated and the worst pay rates in the country.
Possible as a starting point but not the answer to your problems - more likely a source of more. |
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Willy_In_Japan
Joined: 20 Jul 2004 Posts: 329
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Actually, from what Ive heard, Heart takes wages to a new definition of low......Interac is far from the worst pay. |
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JimDunlop2

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Posts: 2286 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps not the WORST, but 230,000 a month is pure sh|te. Especially for that kind of work. I am *true public sector (very rare, btw) and make over 10-man more than that -- which is what a direct-hire SHOULD get paid.
Plus, I have all my health benefits, etc....
Stay far away from those jokers -- just do a forum search for Interac and you'll find no shortage of information...
*true meaning I was a direct BoE-hire. |
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furiousmilksheikali

Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1660 Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Good evening. Yes, a lot of the comments on Interac are negative, but you should take it all with a grain of salt (like most of the posts here).
I work for Interac, I work in the inaka, and I work in the public schools (both JHS and ES).
Here are my two cents:
This being my first job here in Japan, it's not that bad. As other Interac ALT's who have worked with other companies tell me, things can be much worse.
Interac helps and supports you as much as they can, atleast in my experience so far. If you need help with something that is out of your control (or if it's something a foreigner would have a hard time dealing with), Interac will help you out.
But not everything is positive. It took me a lot of $$$ to start up when I came here, mostly because Interac threw me into a pretty expensive apartment and I had no other choice. Also, there seems to be little bouts of miscommunication here and there with the branch office, which gets annoying. Another thing is that you have to remember it's a dispatch company, and you as an ALT have no real business with the Board of Education. So at the schools, you might be just another number and not given much attention or preferential treatment.
The best parts for me with Interac is, for the most part, they leave you alone. If you do your job, get good reviews from the schools you work at, and don't do anything shady and keep yourself out of trouble, Interac will leave you alone. I do my job well, and I hardly hear from them, besides the occassional email or phone call about updates which come about once every 2 weeks.
The public holidays are nice too. Getting the whole summer vacation off, despite the pro-rated salary, was absolutely awesome. And now that I get the winter break off, I'm heading back to America for the holidays.
You hear a lot about Interac being illegal this and illegal that, but to me, as one of their employees, it doesn't really affect me at all, so I could care less. I am here in Japan, making the standard salary, and doing what I want to do for the most part.
PM me if you have any specific questions. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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TK4Lakers wrote: |
It took me a lot of $$$ to start up when I came here, mostly because Interac threw me into a pretty expensive apartment and I had no other choice. |
Yes, please remind us and inform the original poster exactly how many thousands of dollars it cost you just to start working for Interac.
TK4Lakers wrote: |
The best parts for me with Interac is, for the most part, they leave you alone. |
That's one of the key things that is illegal about Interac's ALT system that you don't seem to understand. If the Interac (or any so-called dispatch company) has a gyomu itaku (outsourcing) contract with a BOE (or private high school) all orders must come through Interac, not through the school. If Interac isn't in touch with you constantly telling you want to do, something's very wrong and very illegal.
There's also the problem with you being an assistant to Japanese English teachers who are legally not allowed to even discuss with you about the things you are supposed to be assisting them with.
TK4Lakers wrote: |
You hear a lot about Interac being illegal this and illegal that, but to me, as one of their employees, it doesn't really affect me at all, so I could care less. |
It's pretty clear that you don't mind that Interac is stealing probably close to half your salary every month, doesn't provide you with proper health insurance, and gives you zero job security.
Only a fool could care less. |
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yamanote senbei

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 435
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: Re: I Want To Know AboutTeaching In Public Schools With Inte |
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JRJohn wrote: |
The net salary is 230000 yen per month. |
This number is incorrect. It's closer to the average gross salary. Who gave you this figure, a recruiter? |
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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yamanote senbei wrote: |
TK4Lakers wrote: |
It took me a lot of $$$ to start up when I came here, mostly because Interac threw me into a pretty expensive apartment and I had no other choice. |
Yes, please remind us and inform the original poster exactly how many thousands of dollars it cost you just to start working for Interac.
TK4Lakers wrote: |
The best parts for me with Interac is, for the most part, they leave you alone. |
That's one of the key things that is illegal about Interac's ALT system that you don't seem to understand. If the Interac (or any so-called dispatch company) has a gyomu itaku (outsourcing) contract with a BOE (or private high school) all orders must come through Interac, not through the school. If Interac isn't in touch with you constantly telling you want to do, something's very wrong and very illegal.
There's also the problem with you being an assistant to Japanese English teachers who are legally not allowed to even discuss with you about the things you are supposed to be assisting them with.
TK4Lakers wrote: |
You hear a lot about Interac being illegal this and illegal that, but to me, as one of their employees, it doesn't really affect me at all, so I could care less. |
It's pretty clear that you don't mind that Interac is stealing probably close to half your salary every month, doesn't provide you with proper health insurance, and gives you zero job security.
Only a fool could care less. |
I don't understand why you have such a big vendetta against Interac, let alone my post. Perhaps you would like to share how you screwed over. I'm just sharing my own opinion to the OP and how Interac treats me and how things are going for me so far. You don't gotta rub your nose into my own situation and tell me how I'm wrong and how I'm having a stick shoved up my ass. Perhaps you already have one up there that makes you respond the way you do.
Just to let you know, I've got some goals in mind while I am here in Japan. And for the most part, Interac has allowed me to pursue them without getting in my way and has given me the flexibility to do what I want to do. I'm not here to become a full-fledged English teacher, and I'm not here to compare my experience with JET ALT's or private hires....and I'm definitely not here to tell Interac how to do things differently or legally or how to treat me.
So Interac leaves me alone and let's me do my job, and that's illegal? Why do I care? Tell me, please. and job security? Well, last time I checked I still have a job, and even if I lose it, it's pretty damn easy to find a English teaching job next door.
Like I said, I'm here for the long run and I have my own mokuhyoo in mind. So please, get off my nuts. If you have something personal against Interac, please share your story. Don't bash mine and tell me how I am being illegally used. As a matter of fact, why don't you do something about it. Please offer me a job with security, proper health insurance, and offers me a much better contract than the 260,000 I get now. |
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Mark
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 500 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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yamanote senbei,
I understand your arguments about the Interac arrangement being illegal. I also understand your attempts to let people know about this fact.
But, at the same time, I think you can understand TK4Lakers' position. Lots of people will be perfectly willing to work illegal contract so long as it provides them with what they need. And let's be fair, there aren't a lot of legal ways into the public school system.
I work through an agency and have been placed at a private high school. I know that my position is probably illegal. I know that dispatch companies fudge the visa application documents for their employees.
But what are the options? We should all quit and go home? Many people are only going to be here for a couple of years and they don't want to spend all their time in Japan trying to change this situation.
And, I think the most important thing is that is doesn't seem like anybody really cares about this situation. According to what you say, this situation is blatantly illegal. Right? And yet it's massively widespread throughout the public school system (and private schools as well). The government is well aware of it and is also well aware that BoEs are not participating in the JET programme. This just seems like a law that no one is interested in following or enforcing. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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TK4Lakers,
Are you paid on time, or is part of your salary paid late?
How long have you worked for Interac, and have you lost any bonuses as a result of "funny" accounting practices? |
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6810

Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 309
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I can't speak for Lakers...
However, I have in the past worked for interac (don't now though, parted amicably though) and...
they always paid on time
no strange or suspect deductions
got two pay rises as a result of performance bonus on top of the standard 25man pay.
Interac never pulled any strange things on me.
I took sick days when sick with no problems and received renumeration.
I think, at least according to friends out east in Kanto (I'm in Chubu) where you are with interac has a significant influence on your working conditions. I heard that things in and around Tokyo are atrocious, lower pay, various strict conditions... this is hearsay though.
Interac has its problems, but no more or less than any other eikaiwa or dispatch company. This doesn't necessarily make it good, or better or even more legal than anyone else.
my 2円。 |
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
TK4Lakers,
Are you paid on time, or is part of your salary paid late?
How long have you worked for Interac, and have you lost any bonuses as a result of "funny" accounting practices? |
I am always paid on time. Never had a problem with it so far.
I have worked for Interac since April of this year when the school year started. I have not lost any bonuses or had any shady accounting practices pulled on me. |
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TK4Lakers

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 159
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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6810 wrote: |
I can't speak for Lakers...
However, I have in the past worked for interac (don't now though, parted amicably though) and...
they always paid on time
no strange or suspect deductions
got two pay rises as a result of performance bonus on top of the standard 25man pay.
Interac never pulled any strange things on me.
I took sick days when sick with no problems and received renumeration.
I think, at least according to friends out east in Kanto (I'm in Chubu) where you are with interac has a significant influence on your working conditions. I heard that things in and around Tokyo are atrocious, lower pay, various strict conditions... this is hearsay though.
Interac has its problems, but no more or less than any other eikaiwa or dispatch company. This doesn't necessarily make it good, or better or even more legal than anyone else.
my 2円。 |
I have a similar to experice to what you had with Interac. No real complaints from me.
Also, another thing. I fell really ill back in September, so ill that I had to visit the hospital twice and ended up staying for 2 nights.
During this really tough time, Interac supported and helped me as much as they could. Before this, I was bit lukewarm towards everything Interac. However, after this incident, I warmed up to Interac considerably and I appreciate their help to this day. They called in daily to check in on me, and helped me with my insurance paperwork and logistics.
Also, 6810, I think you're right in that what branch you work for with Interac greatly matters on how your experience is. Of course, not everything is perfect. But my branch is a lot more laid back (so I hear) compared to the bigger, city ones like Tokyo. Interac has never pulled any shady things on me either. |
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