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Muslim
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: TESOL in Saudi??? |
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Dear readers,
Can anyone help me by telling me if I have any chances to get a job in Saudi-Arabia?
I plane to make a TESOL-degree in Canada/Calgary, it is a 2 month-training,
at the Gobal-Vilage-School.
Thanks for your advices! |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone help me by telling me if I have any chances to get a job in Saudi-Arabia? |
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Thanks for your advices! |
If that last line is indicative of your knowledge of English, then the answer to your question is no. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Not to be overly harsh, but it is obvious that you are not a native speaker of English, but probably Arabic, yes? (chances, advices, make a degree, plane)
I think that before you try to sell yourself as a teacher of English, you need much more than a 2 month course. There is no 2 month course that will give you a 'degree.'
Others many not agree with me and can certainly post otherwise.
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Van Norden
Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 409
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Before you leave please accept the award for the dickiest username ever to grace this forum. What were you thinking?
If I ever revert I'll have to settle for Muslim2. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Aw man, this poor dude just wants to come and chill out with the other muslim brothers !
Why you honkeys giving him a hard time ? |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: TESOL in Saudi??? |
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Muslim wrote: |
Dear readers,
Can anyone help me by telling me if I have any chances to get a job in Saudi-Arabia?
I plane to make a TESOL-degree in Canada/Calgary, it is a 2 month-training,
at the Gobal-Vilage-School.
Thanks for your advices! |
Actually, yes you probably can get a job at one of the local international schools or language schools. Do a job search here and apply, and if you want to work in Mekka or Medina, they are also hiring, but for less pay I am advised, due to their pilgrimage proximity.
For those that would disagree, I understand and sympathize with your elevated stress levels with the original post and query, but just remember "ladies and gentlemens" or "the stewnami in Thailand" before you write your rebuttal. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody was born an expert in English language or any other specialism!
All we were born naked to this life, so give a man a chance to try, and may be he will get a job in SA to teach English. Why not, the Egyptians, Indians, Pakistanis, Bengali, Torototo, etc, etc, who are not native speakers are teaching English in schools and other institutions all over the ME. So, give him a chance as you were given the chance. This is life, and English teaching is not prohibited to non native speakers.
He was born, as you were born, naked to this life. So, remember, the Equal Employment Opportunity statement�" all candidates are equal regardless of their ethnicity, religion, color, gender, place of birth, eye color, etc, etc, etc,"�it is a nice statement, but unfortunately is not implemented in reality, especially in the land of G.W.B.
BTW, 'Muslim', even thou I am not a native speaker nor an English teacher, but by reading your English writing, I think you need more than 6 months training to be a basic English teacher.
Also, I think it would be better for you to change your poster username from 'Muslim' to another name, which does not reflect a religion or ethnicity. May be I am wrong!
BTW, King Cobra is thinking to change his career from Mathematics to Classical Music, what do you think Van? Do you think I will succeed?  |
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Junaid
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 26 Location: Riyadh, KSA.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Before you leave please accept the award for the *beep* username ever to grace this forum. What were you thinking?
If I ever revert I'll have to settle for Muslim2. |
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Also, I think it would be better for you to change your poster username from 'Muslim' to another name, which does not reflect a religion or ethnicity. May be I am wrong! |
Hold on a sec� I just had to intervene: �Muslim� is a legitimate Islamic name, comparable to the popular name �Chris� (short for �Christian�) origin of another well-known religion. So please guys, you don�t know it all. Get your facts straight before giving the poor guy a hard time: it could actually be his real name! |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have had plenty of students called Islam, but never one called Moslem or Muslim. |
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graftonstreetgulf
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 25 Location: South America
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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He's in Germany, intends to take a 2 month degree in Canada, can't spell and wants to work in Saudi......JIC,KFUPM anyone? |
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Muslim
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Dear readers,
actually, I only whanted to get some informations about working in Saudi-Arabia whith a TESOL-qualifiquation.
Furthermore,
I don�t like to discuss things of which I have no knowledge about.
I am only trying to be sincere towards my God, and I hope the same for you.
I apologize for my English, I�m still learning.
The best answer is the sincere one, the one that will help you in relation to the question that was asked.
I don�t want to offence anyone in this forum, I think we are not here to loose our time in teasing oneanother.
Thanks anyway for your answers,
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ALPH
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: |
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graftonstreetgulf wrote: |
He's in Germany, intends to take a 2 month degree in Canada, can't spell and wants to work in Saudi......JIC,KFUPM anyone? |
what about your very own JIA, Graftonstreet ? - you guys should be able to sort him out. Take him on .. say without pay for 6 month or so and train him up .. Tis Christmas after all .. |
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JAMES JOYCE
Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 32 Location: THE SYNTACTIC COSMOS
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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ALPH wrote: |
graftonstreetgulf wrote: |
He's in Germany, intends to take a 2 month degree in Canada, can't spell and wants to work in Saudi......JIC,KFUPM anyone? |
what about your very own JIA, Graftonstreet ? - you guys should be able to sort him out. Take him on .. say without pay for 6 month or so and train him up .. Tis Christmas after all .. |
Yes,what about Jubail Industrial College?He could at least try there,After all,the recruitment man really does not like native speakers of English. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Junaid wrote: |
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Before you leave please accept the award for the *beep* username ever to grace this forum. What were you thinking?
If I ever revert I'll have to settle for Muslim2. |
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Also, I think it would be better for you to change your poster username from 'Muslim' to another name, which does not reflect a religion or ethnicity. May be I am wrong! |
Hold on a sec� I just had to intervene: �Muslim� is a legitimate Islamic name, comparable to the popular name �Chris� (short for �Christian�) origin of another well-known religion. So please guys, you don�t know it all. Get your facts straight before giving the poor guy a hard time: it could actually be his real name! |
'Muslim' is not used as other Islamic names, and there is another name which is 'Islam', also is used in some of the Islamic countries, like Egypt, but this name is not widely used, because of the confusion with the name 'Muslim' which means in classical Arabic a person whose religion is Islam, and the name 'Islam' is the name used for the religion of Islam. So, for non Muslim people it might be confusing for them to differentiate between the contests in which the names are used.
In fact, The Prophet (PBUH) has suggested names of the Prophets or Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. He has said, "Keep the names of the noble Prophets, Allah loves most the names Abdullah and Abdur Rahman. The most truthful names are Harith and Humam, while the most disliked are Harb and Murrah (war and bitter)."
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The popular name is �Christopher� and �Christine� more than �Christian� , in fact, most of my British students whose name is Chris, when asked what is your full name, they reply 'Christopher' or �Christine�. The Christian names which used to be most popular, may be 20 years ago, are David, Peter, John, etc. But, now, people are naming their children after POP stars and so on. |
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Bebsi
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 958
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I think that before you try to sell yourself as a teacher of English, you need much more than a 2 month course. There is no 2 month course that will give you a 'degree.' |
Excuse me folks, but it is actually very possible indeed to get a degree in less than two months. I have met many people in KSA with not just bachelor's degrees, but also MAs and even doctorates, who became academically endowed in a much shorter time. They simply wrote to the appropriate "institution" and paid the fee, and BINGO!, there was their degree in a matter of days or weeks.
Before any of our esteemed readers attempt to denigrate the value of such qualifications, I would point out that many of their holders have gone on to become respected members of faculty at certain Saudi higher-education institutions, many of whom are reverentially referred to as "Doctor ******", and indeed some have gone on to become the incumbents of high positions such as HoDs and Directors of ELCs. Why, I am given to believe that in one Saudi university, formerly a community college, the de facto individual in charge (known as the "Special Advisor to the Vice Rector") is the holder of a PhD from his own internet university of philosophy.
I have also heard (though the veracity needs to be established) that at the same university there is employed in the Womens' Campus, a 21-year-old girl with an MBA from Yale.
Let's hear it for academic enterprise here, folks!! And, of course, for recognition of prodigies.
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