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cscx



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: how is it, really? Reply with quote

I remember my foreign language classes fondly. The textbooks were amusing, the teachers were eccentric, and everything was very systematic. You began at level 1, and you knew that all the kids in level 1, even if they had different teachers, were learning the same things you were...I remember being assigned cultural enrichment activities about various countries...

What is it like teaching English in Mexico? Does your school use standardized materials?

Does anybody teach at a high school? Is it like here in the States, where a teacher has a classroom and teaches a number of different classes at different levels...the kids move around and the teacher stays?

When I think about teaching English abroad, I remember the structure of my foreign language classes. It was about the language, yes, but also the culture. We had art projects, reports, etc...do you assign these, or is it just 100% about learning the language?

Thanks.
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gordogringo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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Location: Tijuana

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schools for the most part are very professional. Modern buildings,good books,etc. If you are a new teacher to the ESL game I would definately not recommend Mexico as your first stop on the journey.Taiwan or Japan will allow you to learn how to truly run a classroom with dedicated students.Korea is not a bad choice as well. You will also make better money.Mexico is not bad for a year or if you plan to set up a business so you have a second source of income. Is a great country with fantastic people and good food. But the Mexican philosophy of cheaper is better makes it a tough struggle for the teacher to get paid well. And you will be competing with local non native speakers for your job. Idiotic,I know but refer back to overall Mexican life philosophy,cheaper is better. Best of luck!

The fat white guy in Tijuana
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gstieglit



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Go save money in Korea or Taiwan. Then, go to Mexico with some dineros in your pocket. You will really have fun.
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cscx



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll hopefully gain experience next year during student teaching, which I'll be doing in public schools with high Hispanic populations. I also have a lot of savings, so, while I obviously would like to be paid enough to live on, I do have money to fall back on while getting settled. I've already been to Mexico and I loved it, so I really want to go back there.

The thing is that I've always been intrigued by the idea of teaching English abroad, but I really have no idea what it's like. I know that there are lots of different venues to do it, and I just wanted to know how it is...like what someone's typical day is like.

Thanks Very Happy
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gstieglit



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then it depends where you want to work. Each context is different. Are you looking at a private school, public school, or language school?


In general I can tell you that Mexico is fun and if you only need enough money to live on then you have a lot of choices.
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cscx



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of right now, I'm still a student and haven't even started looking for jobs. I'd like to live in Puebla, which is where I visited and already have friends. They told me that there are tons of bilingual colegios and regular language schools there that I could work at. Right now I don't really have a preference. I guess I'd just like to hear people's thoughts on whatever venue they teach at, if they're willing to give them.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some things no one has addressed yet.
In Mexican high schools the students stay in a classroom and the different teachers move from room to room. That means you have to carry everything you need for the lesson and you don't have all those posters and things on the walls. Some private schools may do it differently. I think most people on this board do not teach in high schools, but there are private high schools in Puebla that you could apply to. Yes, most people use a standard textbook and all the students in level 1 are learning pretty much the same thing even if they have different teachers. There is a lot less culture teaching in English as a Foreign Language than there is in foreign language classes in the US, because it is seen as negative cultural imperialism on behalf of the US to do so. Even though the teacher may just want to help the students learn about life in other countries, because English is the language of the US it becomes a political statement you have to handle very carefully. Some students will be very curious about you and want to learn everything they can about you, your family and your life in the US. Other's will be predisposed to see you as the enemy. There will be everything between these two extremes as well. And don't forget the apathetic students, who just won't care no matter what you do.
Teaching in Mexico can be a wonderful experience. Especially if you later want to return and teach Spanish in the US, you will have gained special insights to offer your US students. I think in Spanish teaching in the US, one of the most important things is teaching about culture and helping the US teenagers understand their neighbors and have a good feeling towards them. If half of your student graduate with the ablitity to carry on a conversation in Spanish you will have done your job. Outside of the US, teaching English skills is more important than teaching cultural understanding of English speaking cultures. English is a technical skill the students need to get jobs. They very well may need English to speak to Koreans, Germans, Russians, Saudis, etc. who also learned English as a foriegn language. They will need to read technical articles in proffessional fields, manual's for office equipement, and programing in English based computer languages. Uses of the language we never learned in our high school foreign language classes.
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cscx



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