Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Appreciating the West
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 3419
Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
Is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable? i told my students that it was a fruit because the seeds were inside. Cucumber? Fruit or veg


Funnily enough, this very issue (with tomatoes) caused a HUGE debate/disagreement between a former colleague and me. He said vegetable, because it was used in salads; I said fruit, because of its seeds. My Czech students also said 'vegetable,' the dictionary said 'fruit.' Hmmm, who's right? In the end, I had to accept that dictionaries do not contain objective truth and that people can define things themselves... (within reason, of course).

d
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:05 pm    Post subject: They're berry good - technically Reply with quote

Dear denise,
Another world heard from - tomatoes are actually berries. Yup, that's right:BERRIES - believe it or not.

" The tomato (Lycopersicon esculentum) is a true botanical fruit. Because the entire fruit wall or pericarp is fleshy, it is technically called a berry. "

and

http://www.urbanlegends.com/science/tomatoes_are_berries.html

Regards,
John
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dave Kessel



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Posts: 49

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:11 pm    Post subject: West- generalization Reply with quote

Yes, it is a generalization. Basically, when people say 'West' in the "West" they mean USA, Canada, NZ, Australia and then countries of N. Western Europe. It is not really correct. But that is how it just came to be. Latin America should be part of the West, but somehow it is just not portrayed that way.

East is another generalization. So are so many continents. I remember when I went to school there were only six continents. Now, there seem to be 10- Europe, N. America ( where blond people live), Central America, S. America ( where mesizo Spanish-speaking people live) , Asia ( where people with slanty eyes live), Middle East ( where darker, long-nosed Muslim people live), Russia ( where ex-communists live) Africa ( where Black people live) and Australia- where people that look like Americans live.

In the eyes of Saudis the West is even not so big a generalization as it is in the eyes of the East Asians to whom even Turks and Russians are " Westerners" and are probably from America.

When a Saudi sees a tall blondish man walking down the street he calls him a "Kawaja"- a Westerner. End of the story.

Sure, many "Western" values are Anglo- Saxons but Anglo- Saxons are generally who are most present in all these non-Western countries. There are not so many Greeks, Albanians or even Italian people in Saudi. Or anywhere else.

Maybe other non-Anglos should travel more to dispell such myths.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
psychedelic



Joined: 11 Feb 2003
Posts: 167
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 8:51 am    Post subject: Appreciating the West Reply with quote

Hi leeroy,
"appreciation".....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Page 4 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China