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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Actually, it's not just Christmas and New Year's, either. It's Hannuka (spelling, anyone?) and Kwanza, and, well, what else? Hajj, also?
This is an international forum by nature. So, it's clearly not just Christmas.

And, while it's not directly job-related, the recent discussion on learning languages as well as teaching them would seem to indicate that most teachers on this forum feel that there's some relationship between the two. So, it's a reflection of us and our jobs -

how many languages can we wish happy holidays (whichever ones you celebrate) in? Very Happy

Good going so far!


I think that was Bayden's point - that the emphasis on every imaginable holiday that could be celebrated at this time of the year necessarily detracts from the relative importance of Christmas as a Christian holiday. If, as Christians believe, the holiday celebrates God Himself coming to Earth, it would be the most important event in all human history. To that point of view, insistance on celebrating other holidays at this time demeans the holiday of Christmas. It wouldn't matter where you are in the world.

Also, this is a forum of English teaching, not just any international forum. If its scope were broader, one could freely post on, say, the effects of philosophy on our teaching practice. Since the warnings clearly limit the scope of this forum to teaching English, posting on every faith and every imaginable holiday would be inappropriate. The only reason that one could even reference Christianity here is that it is still the dominant religion of the English-speaking world.

Having said all that, I'll just wish y'all a Merry Christmas! Smile
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't intend to limit the thread to Christian English teachers only. And the focus was meant to be linguistic, not religious.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris-mas omedeto (Japan)!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nollag Shona dhuibh go leir!!!
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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To keep the focus linguistic,
"S Rozhdestvom Khristovym!!" /srazh-dyest-VOME khrees-TOE-vweem/ (choose your own transcription system)
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For future reference it is worth pointing out that the phrase 'Happy Holidays' will meet with blank stares from British English speakers. No one from UK/Ireland would ever say such a thing. Indeed an attempt in the mid-90s in Englands second city of Birmingham to rebrand Christmas as 'Winterval' was treated with the contempt that it deserved.

Other Christmas greetings...


Priecigus Ziemas Svetkus! (Latvian)
Bon nadal i felic any nou. (Catalan)
Zoriontsu Urte Berri On (Basque)
Craciun Fericit (Romanian)
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

c novim godom!
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For future reference it is worth pointing out that the phrase 'Happy Holidays' will meet with blank stares from British English speakers.


I've just tried this on the British English speakers I could conveniently find, and met with no blank stares. Most people, even if they were unfamiliar with the expression (which was not my impression) could figure it out. On December 24th, somebody says "Happy Holidays"- do you need to be a linguistic genius to figure out what they're on about? I don't think so...

Bon Natal.

Justin
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I hope you all have a great Hogmanay Very Happy
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonas festes.


(Happy holidays. Literally, happy parties. I like it.)

Justin
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
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For future reference it is worth pointing out that the phrase 'Happy Holidays' will meet with blank stares from British English speakers.


I've just tried this on the British English speakers I could conveniently find, and met with no blank stares. Most people, even if they were unfamiliar with the expression (which was not my impression) could figure it out. On December 24th, somebody says "Happy Holidays"- do you need to be a linguistic genius to figure out what they're on about? I don't think so...

Bon Natal.

Justin


It'll be understood in the same way that someone saying in the USA that they're going to the toilet to change a nappy. It just sounds odd and 'foreign.' No one from UK/Ireland would use it in that context.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that was Justin's point. '

Anyway, instead of picking the thing apart, can't we just see how many ways of sending good wishes for whatever at this time of year are among us?
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sprial78 said.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't resist pointing out that we first had anti-PC Grinches, then the Semantics Grinches kicked in ... Laughing

But really, guys good wishes...in how many languages?!
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I can't resist pointing out that we first had anti-PC Grinches, then the Semantics Grinches kicked in ... Laughing


Heh heh... Guilty as charged m'Lord.

We seemed to covered most of the main European languages and maybe the top half a dozen Asian languages but not many indigenous languages from other continents. Doesn't anyone work in Africa or The Americas?
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