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Adaptation to living in a Muslim Indonesia? how hard/easy?
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rayman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, if you're in a bar or sitting at home - you'll be fine. If you're on the street and seeking attention, probably not so wise. But then, alcohol in public places is frowned upon (and against the law) in most western nations also.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: * Reply with quote

TEAM_PAPUA wrote:
Your main inquiry, with regard to working and living in Indonesia, concerns the possibility of running around wearing shorts and tank top while drinking beer in public!

Here in Jakarta, you can go to a warung and buy beer and viagra, then go to a club and top it off with a handfull of pills and a bedfull of women - you may even get away with wearing your tank top.

Welcome to Indonesia.


No, no, ghost is not like the picture you paint above!

You have to take those things in isolation, and not put them together to get a better picture of the original question.....

Ghost likes to go jogging 3-4 times a week.....and in a tropical climate, like Indonesia, simply wondered whether it was ok to do so in flimsy running attire (shorts and tank tops) without offending the local populace.

With regard to beer consuming, ghost is no alcoholic, by any stretch, but simply wondered how easy it was to buy and drink beer, but not in public, but rather in the privacy of the ghost abode.....

In any event, from the answers on display, one gathers that one can do both in most locales in Indonesia, but to be cautious in conservative Muslim areas where western culture is less prevalent.

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rayman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From an Indonesian perspective, your tank top will likely draw less attention than the fact your crazy enough to suck in diesel fumes amongst wild traffic in the heat of the tropics.
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rayman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people that exercise in Indonesia do so in gymnasiums. In Surabaya, you'd likely be doing more damage to your health than good by jogging outside.
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ghost



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: clean air, please Reply with quote

rayman wrote:
Most people that exercise in Indonesia do so in gymnasiums. In Surabaya, you'd likely be doing more damage to your health than good by jogging outside.


That is bad news indeed....about the pollution, and ghost encountered a similar problem in Manila (Philippines) and many other towns/cities in the Philippines....but still managed to find jogging routes almost everywhere...and in Manila, found many Filipinos jogging at around 5-6am on the long boulevard going from Pasay city to the U.S. Embassy compound......and ghost was always welcomed to join in with the Pinoys/Pinoys who ran in the early mornings.....

In the Philippines.....the Filipinos would always shout out "Hey Joe, do you want to run with us, do you want to play some basketball?" - very welcoming to foreigners.....in Asia the most friendly...one suspects that the welcome would not be so friendly in Indonesia, because of the culture, and possible language barrier....

It seems, that Indonesia is even more polluted than the Philippines....but are there locations on the main Island (Java) where jogging and mountain biking are feasible?

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happy_me



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here in Jakarta, you can go to a warung and buy beer and viagra, then go to a club and top it off with a handfull of pills and a bedfull of women - you may even get away with wearing your tank top.

Papua and rayman must be talking about there life style, sounds like them
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laughing_magpie06



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, like you ghost, also spent some time in the Philippines and found it remarkably similar to Indonesia. Pollution levels in Manila and Jakarta are high and forest fires seem common thruout Java and Luzon. The 'Hey Joe' cry is replaced by 'Hello Mister' but both countries are pretty friendly. Maybe Filipinos are more outgoing because their English is of a higher standard.
Interestingly, the people in Jakarta who seem to hassle me for a beer when I walk home with a bag of 10 are usually muslims-ironic indeed!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happy_me wrote:

Papua and rayman must be talking about there life style, sounds like them


...and let he who has not sinned cast the first stone
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: * Reply with quote

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Papua and rayman must be talking about there life style, sounds like them



You only live once - and I can't waste my time moaning about the price of LPG

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote