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What is your favorite English Teaching System/Book?
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mapache



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: What is your favorite English Teaching System/Book? Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

I am curious what is the most popular English teaching system / book used for ESL in Mexico.

My favourite is Cambridge Interchange Third Edition Full Contact. This system is used in many private schools and public and private universities in Southern Mexico.
The audio program is excellent listening and conversation practice. It includes a workbook section, class activities and videos. I have used other systems but I think this one is the best. Any comments or other ideas?

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe it or not, but You Tube is my favorite 'system', so to speak. If I had to pick an EFL series, it would be Market Leader by Longman, though the audio portion really sucks.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the university where I've been teaching for 10+ years, it seems that every couple of years we go through a time-to-change-the-system routine. These changes are instigated by things like changes in administration, current textbook no longer being published, someone important going to a conference and coming back with a "new and innovative" concept, or whatever. Teachers are then expected to create a new program without being given adequate time, materials, or funds to do so. The result is usually similar to recreating the wheel except that it comes out oblong at best and more often square.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Round de Bloc wrote:
The result is usually similar to recreating the wheel except that it comes out oblong at best and more often square
BRdB, are you sure you don't teach at my school? Yeah, that sounds SO familiar...

Pretty much all textbooks suck. Hopefully you have a large library of material to pick and choose from, and you try to cover the material on the course syllabus as best as possible.
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent an afternoon at the Londres Bookstore in Merida and spot checked their various ESL textbooks. They have a very large selection of several 100`s of books and quickly realized that the two British publishers, Cambridge and Oxford had, by far, the superior ESL materials.
I had been using the Cambridge Series, Passages and Side by Side at my previous teaching gig in Merida and am using Interchange and Passages here in Chiapas. I am pleased with both.
I had a private student who insisted on using a very bad Mexican generated textbook which consisted mostly of biographies of famous Mexicans. The book was simplistic and addressed only the needs of improving reading comprehension. The book is currently out of print, but I have seen it in used bookstores. There were numerous spelling errors.
There is also a very small pocket sized paperback that is published out of DF that likewise has 100`s of spelling errors and even outright incorrect definitions, that sells at the outdoor book sales in Merida. I use it for myself as a primer on Spanish words and was useful as my first introduction to learning Spanish, but I would not recommend it to anyone unless they were on an extremely limited budget. That book cost only 20 pesos. What you pay is what you get.
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gordogringo



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to weave together my own material. As someone else said,they are for the most part not the best. But we often use Ingles para Latinos as a book. There are different grammatical errors in it like most but as we only have a few hours a week with each student they can take them with and practice on thier lunch breaks or in the evening with family. It is good for pronunciation as things are written phonetically below each phrase. I found it at Wal-Mart in Las Vegas a few years ago.
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MamaOaxaca



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also perfer the pick and choose method, tweeking materials to mesh better with my students personal lives, or go the Scott Thornbury no materials teaching route.

But if I had to choose one book, I'd choose New English File, from Oxford University Press. Why? It has the most through Teacher's Book I've ever seen. Reading every word of that Teacher's Book is as good as most TEFL courses in my mind. Laughing
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: textbooks Reply with quote

I, too, and not the biggest fan of textbooks. But Ill admit some of that has to do with the near-worship of whatever textbook we happen to be using at the moment. (Always the contrarian, I am)

I think that maybe textbooks are better for the lower levels. In the advanced levels (which I prefer) reliance on textbooks only holds students back. After all, like we discussed on another thread, the goal SHOULD be to get students to be able to use the language in the real world.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: You Tube Reply with quote

hey Guy... I would like to know what/how you use YouTube. Ive found interesting stuff but suggestions for teaching would be cool.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would like to know what/how you use YouTube


I'm not big on textbooks either...necessary evils sometimes, but otherwise, I create my own content for business English classes. I like You Tube (or Google Video) for easily searchable topics and short clips, especially to replace terrible canned audio and to get around the problems of using full length movies.

I haven't been using it very long at all...but more and more. TV ads, short thematic conversations, etc.
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MamaOaxaca



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
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I would like to know what/how you use YouTube


I haven't been using it very long at all...but more and more. TV ads, short thematic conversations, etc.


Sounds like the makings of a conference workshop...
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or the old standby...Football in the Groin on You Tube. No shortage of footage..

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=football+in+groin&search=Search

That first brings me back...a boring summer day in the Canadian woods. It's what happens when a country doesn't have baseball as a pastime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScDO0A19-_Y
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ls650



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
I like You Tube (or Google Video) for easily
How do you store the YouTube video for later display in the class? Or are you doing this with a live internet connection in the classroom?
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question...I've never found an easy answer. I do use internet in the class. Since I set it up the night before, the videos are already in cache to make it quicker...just bookmark the links or write a small webpage offline with the embedded links.

Hmm...since it's become a topic, I'll share this. For 2007, one of my pet projects is working with podcasts...to eliminate the need for internet or a laptop in the class completely and just go with an ipod.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
to eliminate the need for internet or a laptop in the class completely and just go with an ipod.


How many students do you have? In my classes of 16 I can just imagine the chaos as they all try to crowd around that tiny little screen!
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