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Toe Save
Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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I perceived Toe Save's post as being almost complimentary towards the person who is now serving time for narco-trafficking (and who will never get a professional license in education, science, law, engineering, etc. due to the drug conviction, considered to be a moral turpitude in Western nations.)
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Your perception and my intention are completely polemic. I am not lionizing, canonizing or martinizing Matty or his choices. When push came to shove, he didn't turtle. That's all I'm saying.
I can repect him for that in that his crimes are victimless. Ask yourself whom, other than the Forand family, has suffered from this? Was he organizing the street corners of Baltimore, staking out his turf with the bark of a gun? Are innocent people being slaughtered in turf wars? No?
Then fine. He sold what idiotic governments are too stupid to sell. He profited where these same governments could have. His clientele were all consenting adults who were making informed choices.
You find my stand unrealistic? Let me say that if even the remotest of an iota of a victim existed, I would not be at all supportive of the man. What he did, he knew full well the consequences. That he unwhingingly accepts his fate does not make him a hero in my books. But it does not make him any less of a friend either. |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: Taoyuan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| yes, (gasp), Taiwan has been, and is, graced by my presence...and I may be sitting next to you in the teacher's staff room tomorrow. |
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| err..no it was early afternoon. |
Yes, it was early afternoon... in California. 
PST is GMT minus eight hours. Taiwan is GMT plus 8 hours. You posted at 9pm GMT, 1 pm PST or 5 am in Taiwan. My reply followed your post by 30 minutes at 1:30 pm PST or 5:30 am in Taiwan.
Busted. Proof positive you aren't in Taiwan. |
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gordogringo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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Location: Tijuana
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Interesting thread. Taught in Taipei for several years and am now in Mexico. When I came to Taiwan a few years back as a new teacher I left a career as a police officer in Las Vegas. 10 years in uniform and three years in Taiwan let me offer you a opinion.Your friend might have been an alright person. Fair enough. But just because he did not shoot anyone over a turf dispute does not make him any less of a community hazard.I have seen and personally had to remove the bodies of addicts from alleyways and parking garages when there hearts could not take "one more hit". I have seen people manipulate,abuse and lower themselves to levels unimaginable before they found thier alternative stimulation. Alcohol is bad as well but used in moderation is relatively harmless. There is no safe use for street cocaine, marijuana or other illegal drugs. Your friend was not only ruining his life but those of everyone he distributed to. The sentence for them is death, rapidly and untimely. Your stand up guy is a stand up killer. The Taiwanese government is very negligent not to have put two bullets in his brain a long time ago. But let the Taiwanese have thier wisdom. He will be somebodys kicking toy for a long time.
Canada has a lax policy towards drugs.Since they also have national health care it probably does not matter as much. But I was sick and tired of some Canadians basic disregard for drug laws in Taiwan. If you can't leave your stimulations behind,don't come. Simple. Rot in peace,matty. Your customers are not as fortunate as you. |
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Miyazaki
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Interesting thread. Taught in Taipei for several years and am now in Mexico. When I came to Taiwan a few years back as a new teacher I left a career as a police officer in Las Vegas. 10 years in uniform and three years in Taiwan let me offer you a opinion.
Your friend might have been an alright person. Fair enough. But just because he did not shoot anyone over a turf dispute does not make him any less of a community hazard.I have seen and personally had to remove the bodies of addicts from alleyways and parking garages when there hearts could not take "one more hit". I have seen people manipulate,abuse and lower themselves to levels unimaginable before they found thier alternative stimulation.
Alcohol is bad as well but used in moderation is relatively harmless. There is no safe use for street cocaine, marijuana or other illegal drugs. Your friend was not only ruining his life but those of everyone he distributed to.
The sentence for them is death, rapidly and untimely. Your stand up guy is a stand up killer. The Taiwanese government is very negligent not to have put two bullets in his brain a long time ago. But let the Taiwanese have thier wisdom. He will be somebodys kicking toy for a long time.
Canada has a lax policy towards drugs. Since they also have national health care it probably does not matter as much. But I was sick and tired of some Canadians basic disregard for drug laws in Taiwan. If you can't leave your stimulations behind,don't come. Simple.
Rot in peace,matty. Your customers are not as fortunate as you. |
A 'Hall of Fame' post! |
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TaoyuanSteve
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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A 'Hall of Fame' post! |
How so? Because it completely misses the point of the discussion? Is it the way it gets preachy with its red herring about the evils of drugs? Or is it how the author takes the opportunity to launch into an uncalled for attack on a whole nation of people? |
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Toe Save
Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| some facist drivel that isn't worth repeating |
Your attitude, like your post would be laughable if it weren't so sickening. Your point of view (that is unfortunately shared by the majority of Uncle Sam's lawmans) is the very reason why you were plucking up dead bodies in the Vegas alleys. That your country's government so fears and loathes drugs that it must declare a war on them instead of treating the issue with compassion and common sense is insane. As a Vegas cop, you surely saw your share of alcohol fueled domesic abuses, traffic fatalities, racist stompings, etc.....
Junkies only hurt themselves. You and your kind make the laws that force them to maintain their sicknesses illegally. Your redneck attitude leaves me cold and further response is beneath my contempt.
Except to say this. What kind of special dolt do you have to be to think marijuana is a deadly drug?
Good day sir.
And Miyazaki, nice stripes! Again. Please see my signature for further instructions. |
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gordogringo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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Location: Tijuana
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Miyazaki wrote: |
A 'Hall of Fame' post! |
How so? Because it completely misses the point of the discussion? Is it the way it gets preachy with its red herring about the evils of drugs? Or is it how the author takes the opportunity to launch into an uncalled for attack on a whole nation of people? |
Hardly.Notice I stated some Canadians. Fewer Americans than Canadians in Taiwan. Not suprising. Less than 40% of US schoolchildren could find the US on a map without having USA written across it. How could more than a few of us find Taiwan? You are trying to humanize someone who could not be more subhuman.That in the end is the point.It is of course pointless to argue drug policy with users but Taiwan has the right idea.Simply need to finish the job. |
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Toe Save
Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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You wanna know what's funny in an ironic, coincidental way? Some years back, I worked with a guy from Vegas. He came to Taiwan by way of Tijuana, Mexico, but he didn't last long. He was caught rubbing the abdomen of a 4 year old girl while she napped. This guy got off lucky. The school quickly brought him to the airport and he was exiled back to Tijuana before we (the other foreign teachers) or the Taiwanese police could get their (our) hands on him. Oddly, his name was Gord too.
It's most likely just a coincidence., right? |
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