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revmira



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: pri-baltic accent Reply with quote

everywhere I go --people seem to think I am from pribaltica- does anyone know what it is about an American speaking Russian that sounds pribaltic?
and ways to reduce this accent?
i'm afraid people are extra rude to me because they dislike pribalticans- or maybe they are just born with a tail
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russians are always complaining about the situation of the Russian population in the Baltics, but in fact 90% of them would move there if they had the chance.

Don't know what a "pribaltic" accent would be, Latvian/Lithuanian are similar but Estonian is a completely different language.
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GF



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Location: Tallinn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canucktechie wrote:
Russians are always complaining about the situation of the Russian population in the Baltics, but in fact 90% of them would move there if they had the chance.


I agree. The Russians living here have it much better than most Russians living in Russia do.
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demoiselle



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: speed of speech Reply with quote

I know that Estonians (even Russian speakers from Estonia) have a reputation for speaking very very slowly.
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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. I have experienced the same thing.
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The_Northerner



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are the Baltics called pribaltica?
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rusmeister



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Russian, the Baltic refers to the sea. 'Pri' is a prefix meaning 'by', 'at'. Thus, 'by the Baltic' (Baltickian?).
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Zorba



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baltic Russians don't have an accent. Linguists generally recognise that Russian is surprisingly uniform. Some areas do have accents, like the Ukraine, but most Russians went to the Baltic 20 - 50years ago, not really long enough for them to get a specific accent.

Native speakers of Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian often do have very strong accents. If you are travelling through Russia, people might assume that you are from one of these countries because you have 'funny accented Russian' and they don't meet many foreigners from the West. Most people with 'funny accented Russian' are from the Baltics (those from the Caucasus and Asian Republics can be identified by their complexion, so they can't confuse you with those.)

It's also possible that they make this assumption simply because of your appearance, the way you dress, your general demeanour etc. You probably look too 'Western' to be Russian, like many Balts do (they dress and carry themselves in a different way to Russians), so they might assume because of that you're from the Baltics.

A friend and I were once travelling by train from Sochi to Moscow. We got into the train compartment and discovered that we were sharing with a middle-aged couple from Moscow. When we had got to know each other a little, I asked them if they had realised, on first sight, whether we weren't Russians. "Not quite," the lady said, "But you looked a little bit different... I guessed maybe your friend was Jewish and you were maybe.... I don't know... Latvian."

We are both British. My friend isn't Jewish, though others have asked him that before. On the other hand, I have dark curly hair and a broad face, not typical Latvian features at all!
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zorba wrote:
It's also possible that they make this assumption simply because of your appearance, the way you dress, your general demeanour etc. You probably look too 'Western' to be Russian, like many Balts do (they dress and carry themselves in a different way to Russians), so they might assume because of that you're from the Baltics.


It's odd that you say that as Westerners that I've met here have said (and I've often thought) that the people here dress in a Russian rather than a Western style and it's easy to distinguish Westerners from them. Especially the local women who often dress in a more 'Barbie doll' way than a lot of women from UK. It's all relative I guess Wink
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Zorba



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's true, to my eyes Westerners and Rigans (for example) dress quite differently. But in Russia, people dress differently again. They can recognise someone from the Baltics (or at least believe they can) from looking at them. I think you can see the difference especially with men: nearly all young Russian men shun bright colours, preferring the shaved head / leather jacket / blue jeans / boots look. In Riga, as you know, you see quite a variety of fashions among young men: hair dyed blonde, pink T-shirts, low cut jeans, shoulder-length hair and so on.
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