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22% |
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8% |
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11% |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| ls650 wrote: |
| For me, roughly 1400 beers per month. |
However, you just got a 25% paycut if you count by tortillas... |
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Justin Trullinger
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 3110
Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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McDonalds is a trendy luxury of the rich here. In happy meals, my salary would stretch to a paltry 160.
Justin
PS- THis is based on what people tell me. I haven't set foot in a McDonalds for years. Read Fast Food Nation. |
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ls650
Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia
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When I was back in Canada for Christmas, I saw a McD's and realized that I hadn't eaten in one in about 18 months. I wasn't at all tempted to try again either... though I must admit I ate at a TacoTime.  |
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sidjameson
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 629
Location: osaka
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I'm surprised that 25% are earning less than $1000US a month. Where in the world do people regualary earn less than this?
Oh, and are we talking take home pay or before tax? And what size of beer are we talking about? Also, here in Japan for example you now have a cheaper type of "beer" thats a third of the price of the normal stuff. Sorry to be pedantic but this is an important topic.  |
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denise
Joined: 23 Apr 2003
Posts: 3419
Location: finally home-ish
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| sidjameson wrote: |
I'm surprised that 25% are earning less than $1000US a month. Where in the world do people regualary earn less than this?
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In three of the countries that I've taught in I earned less than $1000/month. This isn't a very well-paid job, you know!
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moot point
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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| No, it isn't a very good paying job at all but what it has over other positions is the freedom for the individual to choose where he/she wants to live. That's not something you're going to get working for a multinational corporation. You'll get sent to where they want you (with a very attractive salary, mind you). |
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Jetgirly
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| As a new teacher in Italy I made about EUR 1200 a month ("after tax"... though God only knows if any tax was ever paid), but I didn't earn anything in August or most of December. I lived in a decent shared apartment in a good location; rent and utilities came to about EUR 350 a month. Within about four months of living like that I realized I wanted a better paying job, which is why I've gone back to school to become a public school teacher. Less adventure, way more money and job security! |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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Location: Russia
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| Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Jetgirly wrote: |
| ... I realized I wanted a better paying job, which is why I've gone back to school to become a public school teacher. Less adventure, way more money and job security! |
Watch out for the ideological indoctrination in the teacher prep courses! |
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Jetgirly
Joined: 17 Jul 2004
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| rusmeister wrote: |
| Jetgirly wrote: |
| ... I realized I wanted a better paying job, which is why I've gone back to school to become a public school teacher. Less adventure, way more money and job security! |
Watch out for the ideological indoctrination in the teacher prep courses! |
I'm fully aware of it. My entire first semester was devoted to "understanding my identity as a teacher". We had to talk about our feelings every day. I'm applying for a term abroad so that I don't have to re-live the experience in my last semester! My program believes entirely in inquiry-based education but there are no methodology classes so we're left on our own to figure out how to implement inquiry. I spend half of my time going to optional professional development seminars to learn something about how to actually teach. |
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rusmeister
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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Location: Russia
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| Jetgirly wrote: |
| rusmeister wrote: |
| Jetgirly wrote: |
| ... I realized I wanted a better paying job, which is why I've gone back to school to become a public school teacher. Less adventure, way more money and job security! |
Watch out for the ideological indoctrination in the teacher prep courses! |
I'm fully aware of it. My entire first semester was devoted to "understanding my identity as a teacher". We had to talk about our feelings every day. I'm applying for a term abroad so that I don't have to re-live the experience in my last semester! My program believes entirely in inquiry-based education but there are no methodology classes so we're left on our own to figure out how to implement inquiry. I spend half of my time going to optional professional development seminars to learn something about how to actually teach. |
That sounds quite typical. (Speaking in general) The key point in the state programs is NOT that you know how to teach anything, but that you are ideologically sound - which above all means relativistic pluralism. They try to pretend that they teach (and that teachers are to teach) no beliefs at all, but it actually involves a refusal to believe that there are absolutes - and they are quite dogmatic about this. If you tried to assert the contrary about any beliefs you hold you could be failed - I know of a case where this has actually happened. http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_ed_school.html (scroll halfway down)
Most teacher-candidates are young and inexperienced, so believe whatever they are told and assert nothing.
As to the OP, in the US, the idea that a teacher should be a super specialist, and that only 'highly-qualified' people should be allowed near kids (as determined by the state), so a huge money-making machine creates a ton of unnecessary courses with empty content that make lots of money for universities and teachers' unions can continue to insist for ever more pay due to their extremely 'high' level of specialty, creating the bizarre situation that public school teachers in the US are paid more than private school teachers - up to 50% more - something that doesn't make any sense at all in the rest of the world.
In actuality the courses in a number of states now include elements in each individual class that pretend that you will also be qualified to teach any kid at all, including immigrants with no English and severely disabled kids. My own certificate is general English, but I am 'fully-qualified' to walk into an ESL classroom according to the state. I consider my qualification in real terms to be from my years of experience teaching abroad and to have nothing to do with the classes and elements that ostensibly 'prepared' me to teach immigrants. |
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