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supertraveller



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Ukraine Reply with quote

I was just wondering about teaching in Ukraine. Has anyone taught there? I have a friend who taught for IH in Kiev and didn't like the school but liked the city. Anyone know of the London School? And what about Odessa, how is the place. Just trying to get a feel of how the place is. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Take care.
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukraine is probably one of the lowest paying countries for EFL work. Jobs are scarce. Most teachers have some sort of personal or academic interest in living there.

Aside from British Council, London School and IH are the only "real" schools in Ukraine. Note that London School has 3 locations, while there are 5 IH schools which are all independent operations.

Right now London School has vacancies posted at tefl.com (the agency is called Babelfish). You can also find vacancies for the IH schools at ihworld.com.
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Digger81



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Odessa last year and it is a really cool place to live if you are young and single, and also know some russian. It has excellent nightlife both in the town centre and at the beach in the summer. Right now the costs are not too bad but I would assume they will begin to go up in the near future. Beware though there is still a lot of mafia interest in Odessa. Now it is not all a bad thing, the crime rate is very low there (largely thanks to the mafia, who take a dislike to anyone who dares to threaten a tourist or visitor) and there is no yob like behaviour we have to currently put up with in the UK. The city itself is picturesque particaularly in the spring/autumn period, while the weather is generally agreeable, the summers are not as sweltering as in Kiev because it is on the coast while the winters are on the whole not too bad (by ukrainian standards),it rarely snows in Odessa.

If you needed a recommendation about whether to go there or not I would say go for it, just to talk to the girls there is a reason enough Laughing Very Happy
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Baby Angel



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Kiev, Ukraine Reply with quote

Hi! Let me disagree about 3 decent schools hiring foreign teachers. I know many schools in Kiev with mostly foreign staff. And as was mentioned before Kiev is a wonderful place to visit. Nowhere else would one find beauties like here. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
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Ai



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the American English Center? Does any one know if that's a good place to work? They recently posted a job ad here.
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Baby Angel



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Phoenix Center in Kiev that has mostly American and British teachers. I've been studying there myself. I think that it's a good place to find a job for a good qualified teacher. The director is Mike. Talk to him.
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kyivprep



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree that there are only three decent schools in Kyiv, IH, BC & LSE. While there are a lot of language schools that want native speakers, a lot of them are not great and best avoided.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are typical salaries in the Ukraine? Just curious..
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freelance work pays about $10/ac hour. Salaried jobs pay about the same once you calculate the hours and the value of the benefits (housing, vacation, etc).

Does it make you want to leave Korea? Laughing
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jonpernick



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: teaching in ukraine Reply with quote

I currently teach in Ukraine. The school i work for hires on a continual basis. It is opening a new school in kyiv soon.

Salaries are a guarantee of $1000 per month for 26 contact hours. If you work more - like me - the you make more.

www.usenglish.kiev.ua
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ColdRodear



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching in ukraine Reply with quote

jonpernick wrote:
I currently teach in Ukraine. The school i work for hires on a continual basis. It is opening a new school in kyiv soon.

Salaries are a guarantee of $1000 per month for 26 contact hours. If you work more - like me - the you make more.

www.usenglish.kiev.ua
Apparently that school has openings in Dnipropetrovsk. Do you have any information on working and living there?
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jonpernick



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all hiring at american english center is done through its main office in kyiv.
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mulkanski



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: ukraine Reply with quote

london school is a good school to work for. pay is adequate. they are looking for people now in london and ukraine if you are available to interview. otherwise, your chances are limited of finding a job if you just 'show up'. i would agree with the other posts about the best schools in ukraine. don't know much about the BC but i think they have schools in kiev and perhaps odessa too. odessa's great in the summer, rough in the winters. ukraine certainly doesn't pay any lower than most other Eastern European countries, with the exception of some places in Russia. Most teachers in Eastern Europe aren't really in it for the money. Even in places like Prague and Budapest you aren't likely to make much more than in Kiev.
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canucktechie



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: ukraine Reply with quote

mulkanski wrote:
ukraine certainly doesn't pay any lower than most other Eastern European countries,

Not true, as the post above says $10/hour (no benefits) is typical pay. London School does pay more.

Jobs in Poland and the Baltics pay around $800/month plus housing plus other benefits. I would think the hourly rate would be about $20/hour.

Not being in it for the money is one thing, but not making enough money to live on is another.
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maruss



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: What counts most..... Reply with quote

I certainly agree with you in this point!I can tell you from my own experience that anyone would be mad to live in a place like Moscow if they were not earning decent money for it!Of course there are millions of people who get-by on a few hundred dollars per month there behind the deceptive window of glitz and glamour which the elite are so keen to boast about, but I doubt if many others even know of their existence,or if they do they mostly don't care!By no means all of them are uneducated plebs and layabouts either-very often they elderly members of the former intelligentsia such as scientists and researchers etc etc that the Soviet system simply threw away when it dissolved!
This,among many other reasons is why I so strongly dislike Putins Russia and the facade of lies he represents.
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