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"You can make 5000 USD a month in China"

 
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What do you think the average teacher in China makes, irregardless of hours.
<3000RMB / month
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
3000 - 6000 RMB / month
45%
 45%  [ 5 ]
6000 - 10000 RMB / month
45%
 45%  [ 5 ]
10,000 - 15,000 RMB / month
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
15,000 - 20,000 RMB / month
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
20,000 - 30,000RMB / month
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
>30,000 RMB / month
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
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c-way



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Kyoto, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: "You can make 5000 USD a month in China" Reply with quote

I recently came across a post by a poster named prof on the Japan forum who claimed that it was possible for motivated, qualified teachers in China to save 5000 U.S. dollars a month.

I strongly took issue with this comment and wanted to get your take on it.

Now I know that people ask all the time about salaries, but what about the range of teacher's salaries?

What are the poor fools on the low end of the spectrum usually getting? How about the high end? the median?

I realize that the opinions you put forth are merely conjecture, but I just want to know that I'm not the only one who finds this claim to be utter nonsense.
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eslstudies



Joined: 17 Dec 2006
Posts: 1061
Location: East of Aden

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most jobs advertised fall into the 4-6K range.

Anyone who comes to China because they need the money must be truly desperate.

The better uni jobs are usually in the 6-8K range for 16-20 hours a week. A good side job can bump this up to 12K, at around 21-25 hours a week. But bear in mind that many people come to China not caring about salary. For the retired and the sabbatical or leave-takers,a scant 16 easy hours in a classroom, accommodation and utilities, return fares, and enough to live on comfortably is an attractive proposition for a recent retiree eager to get away while the retirement earnings pile up at home!

People who teach 30 hours a week in mills and privates would earn more, and find more satisfaction, hawking their collective fork in Times Square.

Yes, a qualified teacher who fits the criteria can land a position in an International School, earning USD 5000 a month. But is this what your poster was talking about? A Chinese private school offering an overseas curriculum taught by registered teachers from that country will pay up to 20K a month for around 10 hours classroom time a week. This is a much cheaper option for parents than sending Xiao Wang overseas! And yes, I know such schools and have a permanent offer which I may take come retirement here.

But USD5000 savings, other than at an International?? Tell him he's dreaming.
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jeffinflorida



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Posts: 2024
Location: "I'm too proud to beg and too lazy to work" Uncle Fester, The Addams Family season two

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was chatting with an FT that teaches law and has a law degree. She mentioned a job in Beijing that offered her $40k a year.

But then again shes not an English monkey, she is actually teaching something that requires skill and experience...

But face it, in order to make $1000 usd a month they want you to work 40 hours a week in a crappy mill...
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Bayden



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 988

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt there are the few (very few) jobs with international schools (not English schools or university English departments) that offer a higher salary, though $5000 might be pushing it.
The majority of jobs are nowhere near that REGARDLESS of what prof would like to think.
(there is NO SUCH WORD as irregardless, in my opinion anyone using that non word should be banned from daves then taken outside and summarily executed)
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Bayden



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 988

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post.

Last edited by Bayden on Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:11 am; edited 1 time in total
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eslstudies



Joined: 17 Dec 2006
Posts: 1061
Location: East of Aden

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
in my opinion anyone using that non word should be banned from daves then taken outside and summarily executed)

As should those who double post and have bizarre avatars.
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prof



Joined: 25 Jun 2004
Posts: 741
Location: Boston/China

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: "You can make 5000 USD a month in China" Reply with quote

c-way wrote:

I strongly took issue with this comment and wanted to get your take on it.


You spent 8 months in a minor city in China.

Sorry it didn't work out for you. You obviously didn't have a long term plan and couldn't speak any Mandarin.

Others have done better. Of course you can't accept that because of your ego. Just say I FAILED 10x and you'll feel better.

In a developing country with an unregulated market, some succeed many don't.

Next time try for a larger city. BTW, what's your background. PM me and I'll send you some tips on networking and negotiating.

You get a grand as your base pay for 12 hours/week. And you're telling me that you couldn't even pick up an extra 20-30 hours/week? What the hell were you doing? Drinking? Watching dvds? Watching the grass grow?

China sure is "poor" isn't it. All the shiny new Mercedes, packed KTVs, and packed flights to Thailand and Australia. China is loaded with new money but it takes time and understanding in how to tap into it as an EFL teacher.

Too bad that "you couldn't do this." But others have and can. But it hurts to even think about it, right.
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