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tsumetai mizu



Joined: 22 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: NET - Special Education Reply with quote

I'm considering applying to the NET program as a special education teacher. I have an M. A. degree in Special Education from a Canadian university but am not certified to teach K-12 in Canada. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has experience teaching special education in the NET program. I'm especially interested in teaching reading and writing but have a wide range of special education experience. I'm definitely willing to be flexible. Much of my experience has been teaching basic academics and vocational skills to youth and young adults after they graduated from high school. So, I would apply for a secondary school postion if the NET program looks good. Thanks for any general comments or details about your position.
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briandwest



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is pretty limited use if "special education" in the HK system and none whatsoever in the NET scheme.
NETs are here to teach English and train the local teachers in 'Western' teaching methods.
If you reallly want to follow a career in Special Education, rather than simply being an EFL teacher, then the NET scheme is not for you.
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tsumetai mizu



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

briandwest
Thanks for your reply. It was a short reference to special education in one of the government NET ads that prompted me to post. My email to them has yet to be answered. I'll pass on any info if it looks useful. I'm aware of the general goals of the NET program but will do a bit more research. Much of the theory, practice, and methodology of special education, as applied to reading, overlaps a great deal with the theory and practice of applied linguistics. The percentage of students experiencing difficulties learning to read in Hong Kong must be similar to that in NA and Europe. I imagine there is some kind of policy in place re this issue.
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anninhk



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian is wrong on this one. I personally know of two NETs who worked in special education as there are schools here for children with special needs so if you are interested go ahead and apply.
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tsumetai mizu



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anninhk
Thanks for the information. I think I'll get further details and go ahead with an application if the conditions/contract seem reasonable.
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briandwest



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!! I stand completely and totally corrected.
Great to hear that there is some room for specialists in the NET scheme.
I'm still not sure this is the best place to further you career in Special Needs. How do your friends feel about it Anne? Are they able to make full use of their skills? How far behind or in front are the HK SE schools compared to the Western style?
Do let us know how you get on, TM.
Brian
PS I've just re-read my original post and it sounds a bit abrupt and negative - sorry about that, it had been a bad day!
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saint57



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an M. A. degree in Special Education from a Canadian university but am not certified to teach K-12 in Canada.


I don't understand why you got an MA in special education if you aren't a qualified teacher. Please explain.
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hkteach



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, if I may just ad my two bob's worth here...............
Yes the ad DOES mention special ed. posiitons (that has been the case for several years and you have to fill in a separate application form for special school NET jobs.
BUT......... it doesn't mean you're going to get one of these positions EVEN if you're qualified and experienced.
I personally know of one NET (secondary) working in a secondary school for the deaf. She's qualified to do so.

I also know of other special -ed qualified NETs who are working here but not in special ed. schools. Some of them wanted a mainstream experience and some of them actually applied for the sp. ed positions but didn't ge them - they were placed in mainstream schools instead.
And guess what??? The special ed. posiitons which were vacant were given to unqualified teachers with no experience in special ed. - a tough call if you ask me (not only the special ed. issues, but compounded by students having little or no English).

On another note............ brian asks how far behind/ahead the HK special ed. system is compared to other (western) countries. looooooooooooool
Well all I can say is that the primary schools are full of kids with specific learning difficulties (not just English) also kids with intellectual disabilities and ADD - you spot them pretty easily.
Precious little is done for the majority except 'remedial lessons' which are more drill and rote.

I asked my teachers why we have so many kids like this (because my school seems to have quite a lot) and their answer was that many special schools have been closed down in recent years (govt. cutbacks?????? )and also the cultural issues - "nothing wrong with my child - see he' s in a regular school"
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darkside1



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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many special schools have been closed down in recent years (govt. cutbacks?????? )and also the cultural issues - "nothing wrong with my child - see he' s in a regular school"


Sounds not too unlike the way the UK is going (I teach in an SEN school).

Do you get an increment within the NET scheme if you work in a special school?
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hkteach



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