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Van Norden
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| Wait a minute... the opposite of liberal is capitalist?? huh? |
Who said this? 007? 47? It certainly wasn't me.
Allow me to elaborate on my earlier, somewhat enigmatic post about the word liberal:
In the realm of economics, liberal and capitalist are synonymous. However, these days it seems to be out of fashion to use the word capitalist. I was referring to this economic sense of the word liberal, in keeping with the theme of the thread.
In the social sense, liberal has a different meaning. The one VS and Cleo were thinking of in their posts. (BTW, in most countries it's a fairly benign word, but in the US it's often wielded as a term of abuse.)
To illustrate the difference, look at Thatcher and Reagan: both economic 'liberals' but social conservatives. Van Norden, on the other hand, is a socialist and a liberal. Like most good-hearted people. |
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Cleopatra
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| Van Norden, on the other hand, is a socialist and a liberal. Like most good-hearted people. |
If by 'liberal' you mean the non-USAnian sense in which ithe word is understand by English speakers, then I couldn't agree more! |
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007
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Van Norden wrote: |
| ...To illustrate the difference, look at Thatcher and Reagan: both economic 'liberals' but social conservatives. Van Norden, on the other hand, is a socialist and a liberal. Like most good-hearted people. |
Oh yes, baby boy, you are economically a 'Thatcherist' , and politically a 'Reaganist'.
So, do we understand that the other bad-hearted people are capitalist and Bushist???  |
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Cleopatra
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| So, do we understand that the other bad-hearted people are capitalist and Bushist??? |
As a rule of thumb, I'd say you could do much, much worse. |
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007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Cleopatra wrote: |
| As a rule of thumb, I'd say you could do much, much worse. |
As a rule of Mathematics, I'd say you could do much more of zealots. |
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