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[Gordon]

[sidjameson]

Yes John Hall, why don't we all have 20 kids. Retirement sorted. Whats that? Oh, the earthe can no longer sustain an ever increasing human population? But why should I care? I will be dead anyway.

If 1000 people lived on a small island but one family decided to have as many kids as possible and their 10 kids did the same and so on and son. The other 250 families would be rightly annoyed as one family caused a depletion of the islands resources.

That is exaclty whats happening in the world today. People in the developing world often dont have the education to understand this, but you, a teacher do. Anyone who has more than 2 kids in the western world is plain selfish.

I know its a lot more complicated than this, but there are 6.5 billion people on this planet now, many of whom are getting richer and will polute to western levels within a few years. How many more people do you want living on earth John Hall?

Sorry, I know its a rant, but J Hall's attitude really gets to me. Unless of course he ment to have 2 kids, but I cant see how 2 kids in a developing country would be a secure form of retirement.

[Gordon]

You might as well shoot me now, Sid. I have 3 kids. Oh the mess I have made.

[Gordon]

[spiral78]

Gordon, I'll offer to let you off the hook forever. We are having 0 children. You can count your third (and fourth if you want one!) forever as nominal little spirals, and you and your wife can counter such arguments by saying that you are making up the numbers for me and my spouse.

Joking aside, you're right - �ducated, responsible parents earn the right to have as many children as they can afford and wish to have. The investment made by good parents benefits everyone.

[shuize]

[Gordon]

[sidjameson]

To anyone who thinks that you can "have as many kids as you want"

Do you think that this planet can hold an infinite number of people? If not, how many would you hazard to guess? Whatever the number is surely it is a number that will be reached quite soon if the world continues to reproduce as it has been.

Go to a place like Java (and many others) it is massively over crowded. Kids everywhere. They still have 8 kids or more. Is this a good thing?

Do you think Gordon Japan would be a nicer place to live in if somewhere in the past there had been a more enlightened attitude to birth control? Japan is way overcrowded and as a rich nation uses far more rescources than it produces. People harp on about the low birth rate, but imagine the horror if there was a typical birth rate (population growth) of say the middle east; 3%. There is literally no land left.

Even in a large country like America how much natural land has been lost to urban and farm development? How much more land would you like to see gone?

The point about good parents is worthwhile and I dont include Gordon in this statement at all, but in the Uk the type of person to have more than 3 kids is 9 times out of 10 the exact opposite of the kind of parent you would want to be having them.

Lastly if you can't be bothered to answer the above, as I suspect that you wont. Please answer this one question.

In a decade or two there will be 2 BILLION extra Chinese and Indians consuming at a western level. The effects on the planet will be huge.
Do you prefer that we;

A........dont worry about it.
B........ban the use of motor cars, air travel, meat, air conditioning etc
C........try to lower the world population so we can all enjoy a modern lifestyle
D........hope new "star trek" like technology saves the day.

What's your address Gordon?

[dmb]

[Gordon]

Sid, you are changing the subject here. You said anyone that has more than 2 kids in the western world is selfish, now you are talking abut 8 kids. So which is it?

Please tell me how I am being selfish.

As far as there are some people who shouldn't have lots of kids, of course. Some people shouldn't have one, but that is not the point. We're not talking about good vs. bad parents.

[shuize]

Although procreation is considered a fundamental right in the United States, maybe Sid's right. Let's begin sterilizing people. I say we start with the blacks. Or, better yet, the Mexicans. Everybody knows they have way too many kids.

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[Justin Trullinger]

[Stephen Jones]

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