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[007]

An interesting article about Saudi Arabia, by Muqtedar Khan, where he argues that Saudi Arabia of today, is more willing to listen; and that is the best news He has.

http://www.ijtihad.org/SaudiArabiaReforms.htm

Quote:
"Several American and British scholars criticized the lack of critical thinking and openness in Saudi education and we were all pleasantly surprised when they responded by asking for help in introducing critical thinking in their pedagogy." Muqtedar Khan, after attending last year International conference on terrorism (April 20-22) at the Imam Muhammad University in Riyadh � the global headquarters of Wahabism.

"The House of Saud has long relied on the Wahhabi movement for domestic control and legitimacy and on the US for international security. But after September 11, these two allies of Saudi Arabia are being perceived as antagonistic. The House of Saud could not have both as allies anymore.
It is now becoming apparent that the House of Saud has chosen America over WahabisIt is determined to maintain its relations with the US and is actively seeking to reform Wahabism and reconstitute the domestic basis of its rule.

Terrorism by extreme Wahhabis, for whom the clerics and the royal family are not sufficiently Islamic, is once again forging a new social contract between the religious and the ruling elite. This time the House of Saud and the House of Abdul Wahhab will not come together to establish Wahhabism, but to dismantle Wahhabism and replace it with a self-critical, open, more moderate, and softer form of Salafi traditions.

But before that can happen the moderates within the religious establishment must prevail over the extremists and be prepared to make significant compromises � maybe even deviations � in the Wahhabi doctrine and in Wahhabi institutions. The extremists will then be isolated and can be fought both in the realm of doctrine as well as in the battlefield.

The staging of the terrorism conference at the Imam Muhammad University and the seriousness of the dialogue, its high degree of openness and criticism, have definitely raised expectations. Let us hope that Saudi Arabia can make the transition without trauma "

http://www.ijtihad.org/SaudiArabiaReforms.htm

[Cleopatra]

First you quote from an Israeli propaganda outfit, then you link to the bland 'assessments' of some second-rate hack who attended one showpiece 'conference' and comes away full of praise for the Saudi willingness to 'reform'.

Which of course, was exactly what he was supposed to do.

[AGATHA]

Hi Guys.I thought this was an English teachers' forum not a cut and paste center .

[Stephen Jones]

What "Israeli Propaganda site is Cleopatra referring to".

[Cleopatra]

You clearly gave up following the thread after informing surprised readers that female parents often visit Saudi boys' schools, but on the "Spanish minister" thread, the OP twice quoted from MEMRI, a site known to be run by 'former' Israeli intelligence officers.

[Stephen Jones]

I presume you are aware Cleopatra that the article from Memri that 007 linked to was originally published as an interview in the Arab News.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=21&section=0&article=90234&d=21&m=12&y=2006

[Cleopatra]

[Stephen Jones]

The Pro-Israeli lobby stepped up the slurs against Saudi in American media when King Abdullah made the peace proposal based on recognition of the State of Israel behind 1967 frontiers; as the last thing the Israelis wanted was peace, let alone a peace that would leave them without their illegal acquisitions in the West Bank and Jerusalem, they did the best they could to ensure the plan came to nothing.

At present the Israelis are trying to whip up opposition to Iran. Obviously they want to distance the ambivalent Saudi regime as far away from the Iranis as they can. That explains why the slurs against the Saudis have been put on the back burner.

However, the fact that Memri links to an article doesn't mean you can dismiss that article as Israeli propaganda. Memri spreads disinformation by what it does not say, not by what it says.

[Cleopatra]

[007]

[veiledsentiments]

Whyever would you base any governmental/political opinion like this on a Harris poll of the uninformed US public?

come on 007... why not just use a oudji board?

and then you put this???

Can US exist without Israel? NO
Can Israel exist without US? YES.

I can only assume that you did that bassackwards... but either way

I think this is the winner as your silliest post yet....

VS

[bje]

[quote]I think this is the winner as your silliest post yet....

I'll second that...are you SURE you don't drink 0007?

[Cleopatra]

[007]

[veiledsentiments]