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Gordon
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| prindo33 wrote: |
When you say buy one, what does that mean? Where?
Are Southern Queensland or University of New England very hard?
I am ready to put some time into, but as I said the easier the better for me.
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For USQ, I put in about 15-20 hrs/wk for 14 weeks for each course. Multiply this by 8 courses. Easy? No way. |
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ls650
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| prindo33 wrote: |
When you say buy one, what does that mean? Where?
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prindo33
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| prindo33 wrote: |
When you say buy one, what does that mean? Where?
Are Southern Queensland or University of New England very hard?
I am ready to put some time into, but as I said the easier the better for me.
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For USQ, I put in about 15-20 hrs/wk for 14 weeks for each course. Multiply this by 8 courses. Easy? No way. |
It is safe to assume that you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, so your 15-20 hours a week should be cut down to about 5 a week for the rest of us. That should be fine. Thanks for the help. |
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spiral78
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If you think that you can get an actual MA with just 5 hours per week of work, go for it.
Those of us who have reputable degrees worked hard to earn them. I spent even more hours per week than Gordon. Hard to believe, eh?
I'm not sure what Gordon said to deserve your slaming on him, but I'll happily put myself in the same category with him, and the many others on the forum who take our jobs and education seriously.
Buy a degree. Get your pay raise. So long as your employer doesn't care whether you have actually earned an MA, you'll be home free.
But the message is that reputable MA programs aren't easy. Bummer. |
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prindo33
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I was just joking around with Gordon and I know I am in for some serious work. Where do you guys teach? |
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spiral78
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| I am currently based at a technical university in Canada. I work primarily on overseas projects, and have spent the past two years teaching in Russia and working with oil industry staff from many countries here in Canada. In the past, I was at a university in the Netherlands, and taught business English in Luxembourg and the Czech Rep. |
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prindo33
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I have taught in Kenya, Thailand and in Ukraine each for a few times during my break from teaching in the US. Are you able to get those jobs with a Master's from USQ? How do those jobs pay?
I am looking for an opportunity to teach abroad, but have a wife and daughter and would need to support them as well. Would that be possible?
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spiral78
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Depends on where 'abroad' you are thinking of going. Gordon would likely be a better source of info on this question, as he does support a family.
My MA is from U. Birmingham, England's distance program. It's pretty well-known in our field. But it ain't easy!! 
My job pays well, but it's not possible to get full-time contracts with benefits here in Canada (as an American). I'll be moving back to Europe within the next 18 months, and hope to land something permanent, but I know that such positions are few and far between, and I expect to spend some considerable period of time looking and waiting for something to come along. In the meantime, �'ve got curriculum design projects for corporations to keep me afloat. |
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prindo33
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| spiral78 wrote: |
Depends on where 'abroad' you are thinking of going. Gordon would likely be a better source of info on this question, as he does support a family.
My MA is from U. Birmingham, England's distance program. It's pretty well-known in our field. But it ain't easy!!
My job pays well, but it's not possible to get full-time contracts with benefits here in Canada (as an American). I'll be moving back to Europe within the next 18 months, and hope to land something permanent, but I know that such positions are few and far between, and I expect to spend some considerable period of time looking and waiting for something to come along. In the meantime, �'ve got curriculum design projects for corporations to keep me afloat. |
I'd love the opportunity to teach in S. E. Asia b/c I have traveled extensively there and think it is incredible. However, with the wife and kid I would need something solid for a job.
How do you find work for a corporation? |
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spiral78
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| Contacts, referrals, and specific corporate references, essentially. I got mine working on projects for Exxon and LUKOil. |
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prindo33
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| How did you get the contact with Exxon? |
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spiral78
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| They sent their Sakhalin guys here for technical/English lang training. I think there's also a centre in Houston. |
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tedkarma
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| prindo33 wrote: |
| I have been teaching English and ESL in California for the last 13 years. I just want to get a Master's for the pay raise. |
You'd better check, but I doubt that "just any" MA or M.Ed. program is going to get you the pay raise you want.
These are not particularly difficult programs, but you will be expected to do some work that demonstrates some understanding of the material at hand. And this work will be time consuming and at least minimally intellectually demanding.
Frankly, with as much experience you have, I am surprised you don't already know that. |
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prindo33
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I know that it will require work, but I was just looking for the "easy" way out. However, there is no such thing when it comes to academia.
I am still looking for the job that pays me to drink beer at a sidewalk cafe. |
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tedkarma
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| prindo33 wrote: |
| I am still looking for the job that pays me to drink beer at a sidewalk cafe. |
You and I will be competing for that job when it comes up! Oh happy day! |
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