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		Burl Ives
 
  
  Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 226 Location: Burled, PRC
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:54 am    Post subject: The inbetween of betwixt and the middle -- a poll | 
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				In China which do you choose, a good aircon or a great view?  High salary 
 
or input into course design?  Decent location or good kids?  Good collegues
 
or a great house?
 
 
And I'm not sure which of these goes into which category:  a street-side
 
eating place or the canteen?
 
 
And I'm less sure of how you wade through the advertisements to pick out
 
the ones that might give you something like what you want.  How many 
 
schools just don't get themselves up on the internet? | 
			 
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		Roger
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 9:00 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I don't believe YOU of all people have much of a choice here - I in any case seldom get to choose the ideal situation. 
 
You can choose between very bad, bad, moderately bad, and so on... | 
			 
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		Burl Ives
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  I don't believe YOU of all people have much of a choice here - I in any case seldom get to choose the ideal situation. 
 
You can choose between very bad, bad, moderately bad, and so on... | 
	 
 
 
 
What?  ME!  What did I do?
 
 
Anyway, ideal is a state of mind, even if people generally do agree on 
 
what is and what isn't ideal.  I used to live in a place that had some kind 
 
of capital works project that took out the electricity city-wide in the middle
 
of the coldest months of the year:  no heating for up to six hours each 
 
day for about two weeks and houses where you saw your breath.  At 
 
least they only did it during the day and as far as I know no one died 
 
and I still love the place.
 
 
But it's a journey, it's a process, and I can't go back...  So how to go 
 
forward?
 
 
This is job-related for it goes to the question of the employment
 
environment.  Is it really a crapshoot or can one get a handle on where
 
and when to go...? | 
			 
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		arioch36
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| i am loathe to leave Henan because every class...almost every class of students I have had I have respected and enjoyed. but....the grass is always greener... | 
			 
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		Roger
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I clearly phrased my reply wrongly, sorry! 
 
Let me say it this way: If I am not thoroughly satisfied or happy, then I can't perform adequately. 
 
If I have to teach well-motivated students who paid good money to a school that's scrimping and saving on aircon electricity bills and a proper infrastructure then my students aren't going to get their money's worth from me. 
 
It's not their fault, nor mine. 
 
The same is true if the school erects a shiny facade with all those flashy gadgets and ordering you to wear a business suit in classroom - but treating you as their company pet. 
 
Let's face it - most schools don't "need" us for the purpose of teaching; we are decoration, marketing tools, main selling point. 
 
Knowing that my input on teaching does matter could make so much of a difference... | 
			 
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		Burl Ives
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 4:50 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Roger wrote: | 
	 
	
	  I clearly phrased my reply wrongly, sorry! 
 
Let me say it this way: If I am not thoroughly satisfied or happy, then I can't perform adequately. | 
	 
 
 
 
Okay, I see what you mean.
 
 
On the other hand, I have this idea that teaching isn't mechanical enough
 
to depend wholely on the state of one's body.  There are the intangibles, 
 
the generated awarenesses of the value to the individual of the thing just
 
encountered, and that stuff is sold through the spirit.
 
 
(It's all sparkly.  There's a reason they use glitter stars in kindy.)
 
 
Then again, here's an over-intellectualiser alert:  in fact I won't belittle 
 
concerns about decent working conditions, I'll make fun of my own 
 
overblown sense of mission -- it's a wearying thing.  I'll say that, if the 
 
union heard me talking about tolerating below-award conditions, they'd
 
tell me to go to Russia if I love the commies so much.
 
 
(It's just that as my living conditions have improved, my sense of
 
reward has slipped away.) | 
			 
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		whitjohn
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 9:50 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				For close to a year, I have read and studied the posts on this board. I researched schools all over China and chose Kunming because of the size of the city and the weather/air quality. I am absolutely delighted with my location and plan to stay for the rest of my life. Kunming is a wonderful place and Yunnan has so many other interesting places to visit on my holidays.
 
I had been here for almost the 3 month limit of my business visa and had offers from three universities, thanks to making friends among the locals. I chose my school after interviewing the others because I was told the students came from small villages and poor families and WANTED to learn! I was given the corect info. My students are second year (20 year olds) and they  are fantastic! They work hard, are interested and are fun to be with. 
 
We don't have fancy equipment but the good old balckboard and crumbly chalk serve well. 
 
My FAO and department heads pay me on time and rarely interfere in my lessons. They cooperate and are pleasant to work with.
 
Luck me...I'm in heaven and I love it! | 
			 
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