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Desert Storm · Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Classified

Does anyone have the rundown on this place? Y'know the general info like salaries, benefits, quality of students, quality of admin., etc.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

Is this the one in Dammam?

Desert Storm · Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Classified

Yes. The one in Dhahran. They just posted an ad today that's why I asked.

Van Norden · Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 409

I don't know anything about King Fahad Military Hospital but the advert on Dave's is interesting:

Looking for more American ESL teachers to balance an international native English speaking department made up of Americans, British, Irish and Canadians. We also have Australians, but no New Zealanders at the moment. We educate Saudi male and female high school graduates for hospital related jobs. They receive a monthly salary as students and are in line for hospital jobs at military hospitals throughout Saudi Arabia on graduation. The College is a 2-3 year "junior college", but is being built up to become a full 4 year university. We have SINGLE MALE contracts only. Good salary

Bachelors teaching female students? Do my eyes deceive me? Surely this can't be.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Yes males get to teach females. There is a closed circuit TV system ! Really.

This is an okay place to teach. A bit out of town - may have a Dhahran postal address but is NOT in Dhahran which is really just ARAMCO+KFUPM+US CONSULATE+DOHA

Cleopatra · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject:

Of course, hospitals are not always bound by the strict gender segregation rules that are the norm elsewhere in KSA. I have known of male teachers teaching women, and vice versa, in Saudi hospitals, but this 'privilege' is normally granted only to those teaching 'real' subjects like nursing or the like. Mere ESL teachers tend to teach only same-gender groups. I'm a bit surprised at them going to the hassle of using a closed-circuit system for English classes. Surely it's not that hard to find female ESL teachers? Failing that, such places are not normally above hiring compound wives that once tutored the Egyptian ambassador's daughter a few years back.

007 · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

Cleopatra · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:04 am Post subject:

Strange to say (?) I agree with 007 here: the ad does not seem to imply that men will be teaching women. More likely, the female trainees will be taught by local hire female teachers, or by Saudi women. Being a state run institution, it's likely that the hospital is under some pressure to hire as many Saudis as possible.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I hear that the CCTV teaching is no more. Now males teach males and females teach females. Just the way God intended.

Van Norden · Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 409

The plucky 007 is correct - my reading skills failed me there. I guess lust impaired my critical faculties. Made me more credulous than usual. It's not the first time that's happened. As a wise man once said:
He's as blind as he can be, just sees what he wants to see...

The CCTV bit is interesting. I love whacky Saudi trivia and tidbits.