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eclectic · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 1122

Im a New Jersey Italian and I NEED olive oil daily--I'd even be willing to eat the regular olive oil as opposed to extra virgin. Im not asking about DF, I assume they MUST have that shit. But what about in places like Puebla or Veracruz?

I am a workout bodybuilding freak here in Jersey, I go 2 hours a day to work out with weights and machines. I don't assume there's a Bally's or LA Fitness-TYPE Mexican equivalent??? ANYBODY?

Finally, WHAT IS ALL THIS HULLABALOO Im reading in almost every damn travel book about "don't eat unpeeled fruits and vegetables in Mexico" and "don't eat salads that may have been washed in tap water"??

I mean really, now...???? Question

MamaOaxaca · Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 201 Location: Mixteca, Oaxaca

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

Gotta clear a word up here...

Unpeeled...a fruit that hasn't been peeled? Or unpeeled...a fruit that has been peeled? The Free Dictionary Online lists both definitions...nice, clear, unambiguous English.

In any case, fruit that has already been peeled and cut to serve...good to avoid that on the street, but restaurants will normally be fine. Wash your veggies. I use tap water all the time since DF water is simply heavily treated city-water.

But, you didn't ask about DF...

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia

eclectic · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 1122

ummmm, thanks.

Also, ummmm, good about the gyms, thanks.

Guy: isnt that somethin bout the english language, mate? Depending on how I feel, "unpeeled" could mean "with the peel still on", or "without the peel". I hate that.

M@tt · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 473 Location: here and there

does anyone really use "unpeeled" to mean fruit without the peel? i.e. peeled fruit? why is there any ambiguity about this?

regarding gyms, you will find good ones in the larger cities (maybe a million or more people) but plan on paying at least double what you pay in jersey. for example, the only gold's in mexico (df-polanco) is over $160/month. compare that to downtown LA at around $50/month.
the other 95% of gyms in mexico range from dumpy to mediocre with rusted equipment, no labels on weights, no collars for barbells, basically no safety measures at all and locker rooms with barely serviceable plumbing, for $30-60/month. a gym that would meet US health codes and the standards of anyone obsessed with bodybuilding will cost around $100+/month but they do exist.
i have no idea why gyms in mexico are such a rip-off. to answer guy's other question, besides opening an antro i would also open a decent/affordable gym somewhere (if i were in mexico NOT teaching english).

lozwich · Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 1536

de-peeled? Razz

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

pre-unpeeled...or post-unpeeled. There we go...teach that.

Un�peeled
a.

1. [1st pref. un- (intensive) + peel.]
Thoroughly stripped; pillaged. [Obs.] Shak.

2. [Pref. un- not + peeled.]
Not peeled.

According to answers.com

ls650 · Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia

J Sevigny · Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 161

You can get olive oil just about anywhere. I'm sure it won't be a problem in Puebla or Veracruz, which are big, big cities. It's definitely not a problem here in Guadalajara.

Regarding fruit, there's a parasite here called amoebas that often gets on produce through the nasty use of so-called "black water," that is, sewage water, to irrigate crops. Doctors here say that lettuce is especially prone to carry amoebas. My wife's doctor recently said that she believes 90 percent of Mexicans have Amebiasis. But there are other bugs you can get as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amebiasis

eclectic · Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 1122

damn has this really taken off.

I am perplexed as to how ls650 could possibly lean towards describing an orange sitting in a dish WITHOUT it's rind, the rind having been therefore removed, as being an "unpeeled orange". Indeed!

Well, JUST THIS VERY MOMENT I HAVE SOLVED THE DILEMMA!

If we take the word "peel" as a verb, then NO, an orange sitting in a dish without its rind would indeed be "unpeeled"; yet if we go into the labyrinth thinking merely that the word "peel" is a noun meaning "the rind", then it becomes rather tricky, as in that case an "unpeeled" orange (or grapefruit, actually, come now to think of it) would mean just what, then?

cangringo · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Vancouver, Canada

When we buy lettuce here it actually says to disinfect before eating so I'm guessing that's good advice. The tap water here isn't so bad but it tastes like crap, well more like dirt so we drink bottled and I rinse things with bottled but we use the tap water for cooking.

Lots of gyms here too but it's a big city.

As for the unpeeled vs. peeled debate. I just can't go for unpeel as a verb, it has to be an adjective describing the fact that the fruit still has it's skin. How could it possibly be a verb ...and wouldn't the verb for putting peel back on if there was such a thing be repeel...??

Ben Round de Bloc · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1946

cangringo · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 327 Location: Vancouver, Canada

I have looked it up and my findings are in the fruit conspiracy topic. According to dictionary.com unpeel is not even a word but unpeeled is.

My Larousse dictionary doesn't have it in either form, just peel and peeled but curious what Merriam Webster has to say.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

I cannot recall another topic so singularly focused and yet so utterly irrelevant that earned two threads.

Must be February. Laughing