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job teaching adults only, or at least no elementary classes?

 
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myesl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: job teaching adults only, or at least no elementary classes? Reply with quote

I haven't been back to Taiwan for four years and am looking to line up a job before I leave my homeland. I wish to teach adults only, or at least zero elementary classes. Some jr/sr high school (ages 13-18 ) classes would be ok. Any suggestions?
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I answered this in your other thread. I'll copy it here.

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I haven't been back to Taiwan for four years and am looking to line up a job teaching adults or at least zero elementary classes. Any suggestions?


Hi myesl, I say pretty much the same thing to anyone who says they're interested in teaching adults: Come to Hsinchu and look at the schools that have classes for the Science Park employees. I recently gave notice at my beloved place of employment and was able to line up another job quite easily. If you're at all qualified, you'll do well. If you have any business background, you'll be in demand.

The caveat, unfortunately, is that Hsinchu is not an exciting place to live. The young leave town on the weekend for the social life of Taipei.

The plus side is that most of the students are well educated, intelligent, interesting and motivated.

Cat
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myesl



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Cat. Didn't know there was so much adult opportunity in Hsinchu. I knew of the former Cornell and have heard the tales, but I guess that's not the place you are talking about. If you'd like to share some info, please PM me. Thanks!
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myesl,

I don't have any hot tips or hush-hush info so I'll just answer here.

There are three schools, that I know of, that work near or within the Science Park: Berlitz, Cambridge-CLC and David's. I believe Williams may have an occasional class here but their office is in Taipei. Unfortunately I don't believe any of them have a web site for their Hsinchu office. If you do land in Hsinchu let me know and I'll find some e-mail addys for you.

Many of the students here are very motivated. Their company has just merged with a Western firm, they need better speaking skills to promote, etc, etc. This means that teachers with a business/technical/adult background are in demand. But you will still need to use the silly books the school provides and follow their teaching methods. If you are a "real" teacher you may well be delighted by the students and dismayed by the restrictions put on you by the school.

Compared to much of Taiwan, Hsinchu has a high standard of living.

If you have a business background and are a hustler I suggest reading KaiFeng's post (it should be in the top few now).

Let me know if you have specific questions.

Cat


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MomCat



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot something. I've read quite often that teaching kids pays better than teaching adults. I've have no experience with teaching kids but just judging from the figures I've seen here on the board, I'd say that's not true. If you read the Berlitz web site they pay $600 an hour, non-negotiable, and if you talk to them they will readily admit that they pay on the low end of the scale. That's not to promote Berlitz, but it's hard to find any real figures for comparison.

But, speaking of Berlitz, if you haven't seen the ad, it's here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-890218145934088002&q=Berlitz

Good luck to you,
Cat
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jungleboy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MomCat wrote:

Hi myesl, I say pretty much the same thing to anyone who says they're interested in teaching adults: Come to Hsinchu and look at the schools that have classes for the Science Park employees. I recently gave notice at my beloved place of employment and was able to line up another job quite easily. If you're at all qualified, you'll do well. If you have any business background, you'll be in demand.


This very post cost me a huge amount of money in lost salary etc. Unfortunately, you're going to have to google in order to find out why: I cannot go into the reasons here. Suffice to say that there is very much an alternative perspective on this. And I was not the only one.
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MomCat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The post jungleboy references is almost two years old. In the last few months the number of adults willing to pay for English lessons and the number of companies willing to offer classes to their employees has dropped. Like many places and many industries the adult ESL market is not as lucrative or as secure as it was a year ago. I don't know how it compares to teaching kids or to other countries but I would like to. Does anyone know?
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