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kellen_and_carolyn · Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 4

Our employer has threatened to fire us because they are not wanting to pay us for our holiday like it was agreed in the contract. They are using firing as a way out of paying us. We have already found other job openings in our city that we are interested in. If we were to go to another company in the same province would we need a letter of release before we could work for them? We don't know too much about letters of release. Any advice would be great. Thanks!

movinaround · Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 202

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

likely they will not only let you go but also change your status to a tourist..which makes the letter moot...if able to keep your RP assuming your working on entry of a z then keep the letter as part of the negotiation...
actually the letter of release comes into play when you are applying for a change in the sponsor of the RP..if able to keep the RP it would be possible to work out the remaining time on the original RP and then change after it's expiration...

georginachina · Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 193

But aren't you the same two who sang the praises of "New Times"? Where are they now? Or have you moved on, since those times?
How about getting your new school to make them give you a release letter?

kellen_and_carolyn · Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 4

They have been helping us with our situation right now. Everything with our school is still up in the air and isn't quite settled. We just wanted to get some more opinions and possibilities. Trying to Look at all of the options available to us right now.

NathanRahl · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509

Ah ha ha ha ha, the same two who think that new times is the best thing since buttered toast. A good recruiter would have been able to answer all these questions for you.

Also, a good recruiter generaly works with good schools, though sometimes a bad one falls through the cracks. You should look at the schools your working for as a reflection of new times quality. "These are the type of folks they deal with" is what I would ask myself. Duh, yeah, they will send you to whoever will pay them, and you in turn, duh again. Your just a meal ticket to new times, and that they are treating you well, well, of course they are, your money in their pockets.

You want to find a good school, detach the leech and look for yourselves, cause all new times is finding you is crap holes it seems, oh but "Their the best". Man, you two sound like cult members.

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

JadedMenhir · Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 26

Ah, the merry hear-say of the jaded masses. It is so pleasant to see informed opinions and studied arguments being debated instead of the habitual slanderous attacks made by the ESL rumor-merchants. I particularly like how Kellen and Carolyn who were asking for advice are now rumoured to be cult members or 'part-owners' for merely defending an institution they have experience with, instead of jumping on the 'Down with all Recruiters bandwagon' led by the Malsol/NathanRahl agitators.

The thing that makes me laugh even harder is that New Times is going stronger than ever before, still handling many teachers with the utmost professionalism. Nathan, you yourself admit that the occasional bad egg slips between the cracks of all recruiters. Well, New Times is not immune to that, unfortunately. However, they do thoroughly vet schools which they have not done business with before and check the record of those schools they have long-standing relationships with.

As I have said before, they are fallible. Yes, mistakes have been made and teachers sent to bad schools on occasion. But as with Kellen and Carolyn, there are significantly more satisfied customers than disgruntled ones.

Malsol · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 1976 Location: Lanzhou

NathanRahl · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509

JadedMenhir is a recruiter.

cj750 · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 3081 Location: Beijing

nolefan · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 1458 Location: on the run

NathanRahl · Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 509

Nolefan is a recruiter.

JadedMenhir · Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 26

dialogger · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 419 Location: China

I found the release letter wasn't a problem after I went through much the same situation as OP - remember him/her?
Still I moved from a trade college to a tier one university so I don't know how much the new outfit 'leaned' on the college.
Put it to the new employer 'If you want me you will get the release letter'.
It is actually just a certificate of a couple of lines. I have seen some posts indicating that it is a character reference or performance review. Not so in my exp.
PS Can posters respect the OP in what they contribute. If someone comes on to the site looking for help don't use it to identify and make personal remarks to other posters. It is ruining Daves SL Cafe