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Has anybody secured a job after flying to Japan?

 
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Lady0424



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Has anybody secured a job after flying to Japan? Reply with quote

Hey all...I'm having a really hard time finding a school that I really like and trust and it's also hard to tell if the school is a scam or not so I'm just wondering...has anybody ever decided to just hop on a plane (without a job but with the intention of getting one) to Japan and secured a job there? If so, how long did it take you to find a job? Please post your experiences here, if possible or PM me! I appreciate it

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Somebody who's really down in the dumps right now over this whole job thing.

PS- I was in Japan before working for AEON but quite in 4 months so is it also possible that because I'm putting that on my resume, more employers are hesitant to contact me?
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furiousmilksheikali



Joined: 31 Jul 2006
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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Jim did this and posted his experiences in a previous thread. I'm sorry I can't remember where. I will do a search.


....okay, I don't think it is the thread I remember but there is some good advice here:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=46420&highlight=
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JimDunlop2



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, thanks, furious... I've actually posted my story in a number of places... That was the most recent one. It's the "Cliff's Notes" version -- highly condensed.

The thread you were PROBABLY wanting to refer to is this one.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=2892

It was a lot easier for me to do the search, since I know what I wrote Laughing but this is ALSO a fairly common topic/theme that comes up on Dave's and there have been numerous threads addressing it to some degree.
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User N. Ame



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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Location: Kanto

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JimDunlop2 wrote:
I've actually posted my story in a number of places... That was the most recent one. It's the "Cliff's Notes" version -- highly condensed. http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=2892


Jim, I assume from your personal story that you were after one solid job under one employer, which you obviously ended up getting.

Can you comment on how easy or difficult it might be to do exactly what you did in Tokyo, but seek out a number of short-term temp classes in the city. I've heard that if you are resourceful and willing, you can piece together a string of eikaiwa jobs, which can add up to much more income than the standard 250,000 - 300,000 / month jobs out there.

Alot of these once-per-week privates in the city pay anywhere from 3000 - 6000 / hour, and it doesn't take a math genius to deduce that if you had a few of these, you could do quite well. Granted, this approach lacks security, but it sure seems you'd be in full control of your schedule (take on as much or little work as desired), and I imagine you'd make a helluva lot of contacts along the way, which might lead to all sorts of possibilities.

Another possible benefit of this approach: Since alot of these private, once-per-week jobs exist in corporations, there is no school year start/finish to be concerned with. They are ongoing.

I've worked for years in the school system. It's a great, safe, reliable, secure way to go (ie, if you get a good contract) but I'd would really like to try a more freelancing approach in Tokyo. What are the main challenges I face in taking this approach, assuming I have enough dough to get by for a couple months and am set up with apartment in greater Tokyo.

Anyone with related experience to share? Advice? Best online sites to find such work? Take out an "employment wanted" ad in one of the city newspapers?

Thanks
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you comment on how easy or difficult it might be to do exactly what you did in Tokyo, but seek out a number of short-term temp classes in the city. I've heard that if you are resourceful and willing, you can piece together a string of eikaiwa jobs, which can add up to much more income than the standard 250,000 - 300,000 / month jobs out there.

Since the OP started this thread from the perspective of someone who had just landed in Japan and needs a visa sponsor, I will take the above quote with that in mind.

You cannot get a visa sponsored with part-time work. The dubiously named "self-sponsorship" work visa is about the only way to do it, but you need to have worked here the year before (or longer) with a work visa already, and to "self-sponsor" means just to renew your visa by showing you have such a string of PT jobs that keeps you, financially, from being a burden on society. PT jobs, mind you, not private lessons.

Otherwise, if one starts with the quote above and already has a visa, then yes, it is quite possible to do what is proposed. It may be a hectic, seemingly unstable lifestyle to have so many employers, and the traveling alone may take a toll on you (as would private lessons that you don't teach out of your own home), but the potential to make money is certainly there.
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User N. Ame



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
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Can you comment on how easy or difficult it might be to do exactly what you did in Tokyo, but seek out a number of short-term temp classes in the city. I've heard that if you are resourceful and willing, you can piece together a string of eikaiwa jobs, which can add up to much more income than the standard 250,000 - 300,000 / month jobs out there.

Since the OP started this thread from the perspective of someone who had just landed in Japan and needs a visa sponsor, I will take the above quote with that in mind.


Good point, Glenski. My questions assume circumstances quite different from those of the OP.

I've since started a new thread "Freelance teaching in Tokyo" - feel free to respond there.

Thanks
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ruggedtoast



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: tokyo

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did. Got an offer from NOVA, eventually. It can take weeks so you need to have enough dough to tide you over. Whatever they may say, small Ekaiwas cannot sponsor visas as they dont have a big enough turnover to be eligible, though they may well offer you poorly paid cash in hand work while youre still on a tourist visa.

If you do what I did and money is an issue you dont really get much choice about where to work initially as you have to apply for wherever is hiring; and you should make sure that the big companies will be hiring when you get there; for instance NOVA traditionally dont recruit between November and January. After you pass the interview and the HR procedures your company will apply to immigration for you and youll eventually get a certificate you can take to Korea to get your visa converted. Once you come back youre good to go, though depending on the companies pay intervals you could still be 6 weeks away from getting 2 weeks pay! I was literally down to my last few thousand Yen by the time I got my first pay cheque.

My fiance joined me when I was set up, it was a bit easier for her as she had a WHV. She applied for ECC on Sunday, had an interview on Tuesday, a contract on Thursday and a start date on Saturday. So it all depends!

Good luck
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sethness



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here on a tourist visa, interviewed, laid my resume in as many schools as I could, and heard "not now, maybe later" or "not on a tourist visa" quite a bit. After 3 months, my tourist visa ran out and I went abroad... and got call-backs from two small schools 5 months and 8 months later. Both did a short phone interview, then offered me a job if I'd come to Japan ASAP.

Dunno if that's typical.

You can expect that the smaller schools will respectfully interview you, whether there's a vacancy now or not-- but when they DO need a new teacher, it's usually very rush-rush, because foreign teachers will often quit at the drop of a hat, leaving schools with paying customers & not enough teachers.

Ruggedtoast suggests that small schools can't sponsor your visa. That's true, but only if the school is truly TINY, like less-than-ten employees-- or if the work isn't full-time.

Ruggedtoast also says you'll have to go outside the country to convert your tourist visa to a work visa. That used to be true, but I think nowadays they allow one to simply change a visa via paperwork without requiring a trip abroad.
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