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Typical day at NOVA, AEON, ECC, etc.
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flyingkiwi



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Typical day at NOVA, AEON, ECC, etc. Reply with quote

Hi all.

I saw the post on the typical day in an ALT's life. ATM, I am an ALT, but am looking at moving to an eikaiwa after August. Can anyone working at one of the 'big four' send in your typical day at an eikaiwa? Is it really 29.5 hours a week, meaning 29.5 hours of classes? Coming from JET, that's a major step up.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you get any pumping surf down there?
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movinaround



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For AEON,

Come into work atleast 10 minutes early (I always came in 30 minutes early atleast, which tended to save me a lot of stress). Teach 1 or two classes before your "lunch/dinner" break, then usually 3 or 4 classes after that (all 50 minutes). I taught Monday to Friday, but I would have prefered the Tuesday to Saturday schedule more, even though Saturday has more classes. I never actually made it to my maximum amount of hours in a week, but it can happen.

If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to ask.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't surf myself, but I hear the waves are good Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far are you from the beach?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For AEON,

Come into work atleast 10 minutes early (I always came in 30 minutes early atleast, which tended to save me a lot of stress). Teach 1 or two classes before your "lunch/dinner" break, then usually 3 or 4 classes after that (all 50 minutes). I taught Monday to Friday, but I would have prefered the Tuesday to Saturday schedule more, even though Saturday has more classes. I never actually made it to my maximum amount of hours in a week, but it can happen.

If you have any specific questions, don't hesitate to ask.


So, how much time do you have between classes, 10 minutes? Do you always work at the same place? How many students per class? And, if you have six classes a day, do you repeat a lot of lesson plans, and do you plan them yourself or are you basically given a lesson plan?

Finally, six classes a week, upwards of 30 classes a week, do you ever feel exhaused, or do you pace yourself and try to take it easy?

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingkiwi wrote:
So, how much time do you have between classes, 10 minutes? Do you always work at the same place? How many students per class? And, if you have six classes a day, do you repeat a lot of lesson plans, and do you plan them yourself or are you basically given a lesson plan?


There are about ten minutes between each class, but after the first two or three there is a gap of several hours.

If you're full time you always work at the same place.

6-8 students per class, but I may be wrong. Never too many though.

It's common to repeat a lot of classes every week. You plan them yourself, but it's all from a coursebook so is really a no-brainer.

All depends on where you work but by and large it's pretty cushy.
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movinaround



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingkiwi wrote:


So, how much time do you have between classes, 10 minutes? Do you always work at the same place? How many students per class? And, if you have six classes a day, do you repeat a lot of lesson plans, and do you plan them yourself or are you basically given a lesson plan?

Finally, six classes a week, upwards of 30 classes a week, do you ever feel exhaused, or do you pace yourself and try to take it easy?

Cheers.


Ah, that's easier to deal with Wink

Yes, 10 minutes between classes, though one break had 20 minutes to sort of catch up. I always worked at the same place except I did go to a company every Wednesday to teach. Travel costs were prepaid and it was never a problem. This almost never happens though as AEON has it's own corporate branch that does this stuff. It's just the company and the branch of AEON had had a relationship for decades, so they didn't want to change it.

I did repeat lessons often, they tried to schedule it like that. Every 6 months, when the new schedule came out, they would try to change up the classes then.

Max 8 students per class, usually less. Some courses had a maximum of 5 too. I did enough private lessons too.

The nice think about AEON is you are given a lesson plan (basically) and can teach completely from that. But, they also allow enough variation to keep a teacher who wants to try new things or personalize it happy.

Your last question is ofcourse just opinion, but I barely ever felt exhausted. If I did, it was usually because of something outside of work. It can be tiring though, I won't lie. I usually only taught 24 classes a week, and there was very little prep needed (though I usually prepped quite a bit). You can always take it easy. Some people would get really stressed (even me every so often), but the nice thing is the stress is usually gone at 9:00. You don't really take it home with you. And to be honest, the days went by so much faster.

I forgot to mention, the major stress times is if they have a "consultation/interview" with a prospective student in one of your 10 minute breaks. Doesn't happen often at AEON, because they have much smaller student populations than NOVA, but still... Something to think about too, as these can pop up at ANY time, though usually with an hour's notice atleast.
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Dipso



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeon have recently changed contracts for new teachers, by the way. Teachers now have 36 hour per week contracts - 25 hours of which are teaching hours.

http://www.aeonet.com/application/contract.html
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flyingkiwi



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you have to do for a consultation interview?

Also, could you perhaps send me details of a typical lesson plan for adults and details of what you do in the class?

That would help me a lot, thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingkiwi wrote:
What do you have to do for a consultation interview?

Also, could you perhaps send me details of a typical lesson plan for adults and details of what you do in the class?

That would help me a lot, thank you.


Not asking for much, are you Very Happy

The consultation interview is just a 5 minute talk with them where you gauge their English level to put them in the appropriate class. You are also expected to sell yourself though by being friendly and nice.

see PM for the rest
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canuck



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: Typical day at NOVA, AEON, ECC, etc. Reply with quote

Here's another perspective. LOL

http://www.jobweb.com/resources/feaemp/nova_0806.htm

the NOVA sales pitch wrote:

A Typical Day on the Job

A typical day at Nova means variety. You'll encounter students of all ages and abilities each with their own reasons for studying English. No two lessons are the same, but at the heart of each is an emphasis on fun and building practical conversation skills. Each day you will encounter students from all walks of life; doctors, lawyers, sushi chefs, retired people, high school students, and department store employees all study English at Nova.

In addition to our conversation and Nova Kids classes, we also offer a variety of special programs including business English, English for travelers, and courses to aid in preparation for standardized tests such as TOEIC and TOEFL.


Now everyone hug and say, "Variety" three times really quickly!
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craven



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Aeon Contract Reply with quote

Hmmm...I'd heard that Aeon was now requiring staff to be enrolled in Shakai Hoken...about time! I also notice that while they've bumped up the starting salary from Y260000-Y270000, they've also bumped up what they charge you for housing from Y42000-Y55000. New employs are losing Y3000 overall I guess. The bonuses are now higher too...about Y20000 more on average.

I agree that having the Tues-Sat rotation is better, even though it's busier and you have fewer holidays (most national holidays in Japan are on mondays...since it's your regular day off, you get the shaft. Aeon usually gives you one "compensation day" to cover it, but it doesn't come close to working out). Having a Monday off is great for doing things like banking, hospital visits, or anything else official.

I needed at least 30 min ahead of time to get ready for classes. More if I was having to work with a "new" book that I hadn't dealt with before. All in all, it's not difficult work, but it is definitely physically draining to put in 6 or 7 lessons in a day. A HUGE increase from JET Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berlitz is similar, but a little different. Teach 40 minute classes, on a contract would be 40 lessons in a week minimum over 5 days. 5 minute breaks in between, if a student doesn't come (and sometimes we know ahead of time) then you get paid and are not asked to do other work during that time (unlike some of the other big schools). Contract teachers tend to have schedules with no big gaps, so that you're not hanging around all day with big breaks.

Recently on my per lesson contract (so my schedule is lot more flexible to accomodate my uni schedules) I'm teaching as many as 11 lessons in a day (surprising really, usually winter is not that busy, though our branch has been running intensive campaigns, something left more up to local branches staring 2 years ago). Taking time off has gotten a little more difficult, whith my manager asking for 1 week notice in most cases (in the past some people used to abuse taking time off and made making our schedules a nightmare). Travel is also paid if you teach at other branches or at companies. This in addition to commutation pay which you receive every month.

How busy one would be would depend on your branch and the number of lessons one wanted to teach in a week. As to canuck's link, yeah, I would say some aspects of the job are fun in the variety of people you meet, of course most Japanese though of course we teach the occasional Chinese or Korean student. Doctors, lawyers, businessmen from all backgrounds, artists, etc.

The downside is of course, some of the people that come have 'issues'. Sometimes they are referred by a boss or counselor and told that learning English will 'help' them. What it means instead is that we end up 'teaching' some people who would be better off with a different type of teacher Rolling Eyes . And of course, burn out. It's a lot of contact time in a day, though the classes are more manageble when there are usually only 1 to 3 students in a class, but still, I think you do need a certain perosnality to deal with that. But, that being said, there are certainly worse jobs. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:
Berlitz is similar, but a little different. Teach 40 minute classes, on a contract would be 40 lessons in a week minimum over 5 days. 5 minute breaks in between, if a student doesn't come (and sometimes we know ahead of time) then you get paid and are not asked to do other work during that time (unlike some of the other big schools). Contract teachers tend to have schedules with no big gaps, so that you're not hanging around all day with big breaks.

Recently on my per lesson contract (so my schedule is lot more flexible to accomodate my uni schedules) I'm teaching as many as 11 lessons in a day (surprising really, usually winter is not that busy, though our branch has been running intensive campaigns, something left more up to local branches staring 2 years ago). Taking time off has gotten a little more difficult, whith my manager asking for 1 week notice in most cases (in the past some people used to abuse taking time off and made making our schedules a nightmare). Travel is also paid if you teach at other branches or at companies. This in addition to commutation pay which you receive every month.

How busy one would be would depend on your branch and the number of lessons one wanted to teach in a week. As to canuck's link, yeah, I would say some aspects of the job are fun in the variety of people you meet, of course most Japanese though of course we teach the occasional Chinese or Korean student. Doctors, lawyers, businessmen from all backgrounds, artists, etc.

The downside is of course, some of the people that come have 'issues'. Sometimes they are referred by a boss or counselor and told that learning English will 'help' them. What it means instead is that we end up 'teaching' some people who would be better off with a different type of teacher Rolling Eyes . And of course, burn out. It's a lot of contact time in a day, though the classes are more manageble when there are usually only 1 to 3 students in a class, but still, I think you do need a certain perosnality to deal with that. But, that being said, there are certainly worse jobs. Cool


Gaijinalways, are the lessons pre-planned? If it is, do the lessons often get repetitive? Also, Berlitz seems a lot more... corporate... than the other eikaiwas. Why is that? Or is it just my imagination...
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