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guangho
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 Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: ESL is dead; long live EIS! |
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| Espanol Idioma Secundo of course. It's the new wave judging by the myriad signs around Krakow. |
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Ivyclub
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| I think you got on the wrong bus, dude. By no means, Spanish could become the second language for Polish as opposed to English. Proof is, back home, having Spanish speakers all over, we Americans can't learn Spanish for toffee at school or from the bilingual world there is all over the States. What made you think Polish would be interested in learning a language which won't help them get a job nor travel abroad? Spanish is a very difficult language to learn. There is no future in that new trend you seem to advertise. Plus what could anyone find beneficial in it? And why not Chinese? Chinese is the new wold's vernacular, don't you think? |
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ChiTownPole
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| Spanish is a very difficult language to learn. |
I agree with the general sentiment of your post; there's no way Espanol is replacing Ingles as the lingua franca of the world, but Spanish a difficult language??? As opposed to what? English, maybe ? If I were a Pole and both English and Spanish were of equal import as global languages, I'd pick Spanish in a heartbeat. Much easier pronounciation, way easier spelling, grammar probably a toss-up. Verb tenses in both languages can be tricky to pick up. For Poles, the present or past perfect in English or the subjuntivo in Spanish are equally inscrutable at first. Lexically Spanish is easier, too. In fact, aside from a handful of grammatical items, I'd be hard-pressed to point to anything that's harder to learn in Spanish. |
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spiral78
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I recently heard a Spanish guy and a Polish girl who'd been dating for a short while arguing about English versus Spanish study (in English). His points included Spanish being easier (and he could teach her) and her point was essentially that she wants to travel, not just to native English speaking countries, but others too, and to work in international companies, and English offers (in her words) MUCH more opportunity to do these things......
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squirrel2go
Joined: 26 Nov 2006
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Location: Las Vegas Nevada
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Well... I thik the last two posts sum it up well. Spanish seems not to be the new English, (though a strong case can be made for its value, and I personally hope it WILL catch on as a popular second second language  )
As for ease of learning... without a doubt, Spanish is one of the easiest second languages to learn for people almost anywhere. Fluency is one thing, obviously, but to gain a working knowledge of the vocab and sentence structure... Spanish is a wonderful learners language.
I for one hope to teach a bit of Spanish in addition to English in Poland. Does anyone think there might be a legitimate market for it, maybe in private lessons? |
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Brooks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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I knew of a Mexican woman who was teaching Spanish in Warsaw.
There is a chain of schools that offers Spanish, French, Italian and German. It had ads at tram stops. |
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jonniboy
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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Location: Panama City, Panama
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| ChiTownPole wrote: |
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| Spanish is a very difficult language to learn. |
For Poles, the present or past perfect in English or the subjuntivo in Spanish are equally inscrutable at first. Lexically Spanish is easier, too. In fact, aside from a handful of grammatical items, I'd be hard-pressed to point to anything that's harder to learn in Spanish. |
But Spanish also has present and past perfect as well as the subjunctives. Articles are also more difficult in Spanish since there are more of them. On the other hand English has phrasal verbs.
Here in terms of second languages in terms of popularity the order goes something like
English
Latvian (necessary for Russians et al to gain citizenship)
German (historic reasons)
French (more teachers)
Spanish (popular but hardly any natives teaching it)
Russian (Latvians do it at school so main interest is from ex-pats) |
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