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Mr. Sauce
Joined: 13 Feb 2007
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Location: Seattle, WA
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 Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: Deportation - experiences/knowledge? |
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Hello,
My wife and I are planning to start our TEFL careers in SE Asia very soon. I have a college degree but she does not. In some countries this is okay, but in others it will not be possible to obtain work visas, and we would need to work "outside the rules" in those countries. I understand that this is done quite often, and depends on the country and how stringently the rules are applied by the government.
My questions pertain to deportation. How often does it happen? How likely is it to happen? And if it DOES happen, do they give you 24 hours to pack up your stuff, or do they drag you to the airport right then and there?
When replying, please indicate whether you speak from firsthand experience (happened to you or a co-worker) or whether you are sharing information that you heard from someone else (friend of a friend).
Thanks very much for your help. We are serious about working hard and giving a good name to the industry, and we are not starry-eyed 20-somethings (although we are excited).
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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In the case of Taiwan, deportation for being caught working illegally is generally a one week notice arrangement. So you get notice that you are required to leave the country and if you don't then you could theoretically be detained but you would have to be pretty silly not to take the initial notification seriously.
Chances of getting caught? Hard to say. Most people get caught as the result of random raids conducted after a complaint is lodged by a disgruntled former employee or a competing school.
In most cases the teacher is photographed in the classroom and asked to sign a letter stating that he or she was working illegally but unaware of that fact. This is then used to have the visa revoked and the individual is then notified that they are no longer welcome in Taiwan. |
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ls650
Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Deportation - experiences/knowledge? |
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| Mr. Sauce wrote: |
| My wife and I are planning to start our TEFL careers in SE Asia very soon. My questions pertain to deportation. |
I can tell you something of what happens in Mexico (not the same, I know).
I know of a fellow who was teaching here illegally. When immigration caught up with him, both the school and he were each fined 5000 pesos. The teacher was then told he had 5 days to either leave the country or file his paperwork for a work visa. He did the later. It took immigration 30 days to complete his paperwork, and he was told not to teach during that time or he would be deported immediately.
That said, the local immigration office here is very strict and by the book. In other areas of Mexico, my understanding is that things can "slide by", especially if you slip the nice officer a bit of money.
Of course, you're talking about Asia, so I can't say how that might be. It will vary a lot depending on the individual country and situation. |
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MamaOaxaca
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Location: Mixteca, Oaxaca
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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LS,
If I'm remembering right there were also a pair of Irish girls deported from your area. They were given 5 days to get to the Guatemalan boarder. I believe they came right back in after that, but I'm not sure if they filed their papers kept working or left Mexico after that. |
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