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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Lovely thoughts, Melee.  But, I think you've never heard an Ottawa snowplow at 5 AM.  Bad in that it's 5 in the morning and a diesel-eating monster is roaring outside while you try to sleep, and worse in that the thing is going to leave a 3-foot mountain of packed snow and ice in front of your driveway.
 
 
 
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	  | To know and savor quiet, one must know snow. | 
	 
 
 
 
A former Canadian Prime Minister would have agreed with you...his most difficult political decisions were made in the same snowy peace. | 
			 
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		hlamb
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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A former Canadian Prime Minister would have agreed with you...his most difficult political decisions were made in the same snowy peace. | 
	 
 
 
 
I've had people tell me that this is a myth but in fact it is true. He used to walk home from work most days and made a lot of decisions that way. I think well while walking too, especially in the peace of newly fallen snow. I miss that a lot. | 
			 
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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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A former Canadian Prime Minister would have agreed with you...his most difficult political decisions were made in the same snowy peace. | 
	 
 
 
 
I've had people tell me that this is a myth but in fact it is true. He used to walk home from work most days and made a lot of decisions that way. I think well while walking too, especially in the peace of newly fallen snow. I miss that a lot. | 
	 
 
 
 
I had those moments while chopping firewood at a cabin I used to frequent outside Ottawa.  Humbling is a word...quieting.  Let's you know you are indeed alone. | 
			 
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		cangringo
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I can't say I miss that but then I was an only child with a father who doesn't much care for noise so I endured many hours of silence. Needless to say I can't stand it and I always have some kind of noise...music, tv, radio talk show, anything. Maybe that's why most of the noise here really doesn't bother me. I like the feeling of a community being lived in instead of the deathly silence of a Vancouver suburb. 
 
 
I also like to know when certain foods are driving by...   
 
 
The one thing I can't used to is the amount of people knocking on the door...yeesh.    | 
			 
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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I also like to know when certain foods are driving by... | 
	 
 
 
 
only in Mexico could such a thing be said...
 
 
taMAAAAAAles, oaxaQUE����os, calienTIIIIIIItos, y rIIIIIIcos | 
			 
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  The one thing I can't used to is the amount of people knocking on the door...yeesh.    | 
	 
 
Gee, I don't get that many people knocking on my door.  Either your neighbours think you're really cute.... or mine think I'm really ugly.   Yikes! | 
			 
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		Ben Round de Bloc
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  The one thing I can't used to is the amount of people knocking on the door...yeesh.    | 
	 
 
 
Yucatecan custom dictates that people don't knock on anyone's door unless the door opens directly to a public sidewalk.  If there's any distance at all between the front door and the street, it would be considered bold and rude for anyone other than relatives and very close friends to walk right up to someone's front door.  Standard procedure is to stand at a respectable distance from the house, preferably out next to the street, and shout, "Buenas," every 10 seconds or so until someone comes to the door.  If there's a wrought iron fence and gate in front of the house, it's acceptable to tap on the gate with something that makes noise while shouting, "Buenas."  It would not be acceptable to pass through the gate, even if it's open, and approach the front door without permission from someone in the house. | 
			 
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		MELEE
 
  
  Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Guy, 
 
I know the racket of a snow plow, snow blowers, and perhaps the worst, the low tech scrapping of a shovel on the pavement! I was imagining Christmas vacations at my grandparents in the country, where the country got round to plowing a day or two later.
 
 
 
There is a famous old lady in out town who sells arroz con leche.
 
 
Arrrrrroz  con LEEEEEEEEEEEEEche,    LeCHE con aRRRRRRRRROZ!
 
 
I once thought about doing an MA in Latin American Studies with my thesis on vender calls throughout the region! | 
			 
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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Yeah, I guess Iowa knows snow, right?  Ok, you are off the hook.
 
 
They are interesting, aren't they?  I've seen people in Mexico City that have cell phone ring tones of such street vendor calls. | 
			 
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		Ben Round de Bloc
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Yeah, I guess Iowa knows snow, right?  Ok, you are off the hook. | 
	 
 
 
From a former Iowan here, what about the familiar sound of a car stuck in the snow, revving engine and tires spinning, the driver "rocking" the car between forward and reverse to get unstuck?  Helpful pedestrians and people piling out of cars to push a stuck car out of the snow.
 
 
The majority of my students have never seen snow except in pictures and movies. | 
			 
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		Guy Courchesne
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				You can show your students this video...my wife was amused by my having to clean the snow off the car.  I was really hoping we would get a huge Ottawa snowfall so I could put her to work shoveling and end any delusions about the dreamlike nature of snow.
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO1PsikMzrE | 
			 
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		El Gallo
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Be happy the Yucatecan custom is to stand outside on the street and yell.  In Chiapas, the custom is to go as far inside the house as possible, though the gate, into the garden and  includes sticking one's nose inside and open interior door.  Needless to say, most people keep their street side gates locked with big dogs in the garden to discourage nosy visitors. | 
			 
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		El Gallo
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Oh, I forgot to mention the evangelicals.  They close the street from time to time (local traffic be damned), set up big, overdriven and distorted speakers and scream their sermons.  My favorite is "en este Colonia vive el diablo!"  I believe it after about four hours of this wailing and caterwallering.
 
 
I used to be a disc jockey so Mexican's insensivity to sound distortion drives me mad.   Usually the speakers used are blown or overdriven creating painfully loud distortion.  People seem to believe the louder the better and have no concept of adjusting the bass or treble.  It's horrible! | 
			 
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		danielita
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I live above a gynecologist's office and my door is always open to let the breeze in.  People get confused and think that my apartment is the doctor's office.  You should see the shocked look on people's when they stick their head in my doorway and see a two gueros staring back at them.  They quickly start stammering asking where the doctor's office is (praying that they are in the wrong place!)
 
 
naranJAS, naranjas, naranjas naranJAS !!!
 
 
I hear this every day and you can barely hear what they are saying because the person either has the microphone too close to their mouth or the speakers are just bad.  I can't help but wonder what better business they might have if people you actually CLEARLY hear what they are selling.... | 
			 
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		ls650
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| There's a fruit truck with a louspeaker that drives through my apartment complex early in the morning.  The driver plays a tape rather than shout himself, and the tape has become worn and distorted over time.  All I can understand are the first two words...  "�PI-�AS!  �NA-RAN-JAS!  �WARBLE WARBLE!" | 
			 
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