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brasscat · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: UOH, not KFUPM

Why the reluctance to address directly the UOH situation?

Getting bogged down in minutae such as what is a real university/teacher does not address the critical issue at hand.

Given the information, do you want to spend a year at UOH?

The prepschool is the location where most teachers are being recruited. Both Math and ELC are very short handed due to their poor handling of the professional faculty.

If you are a young woman on assignment for the first time, this is a particularly difficult assignment.
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scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

It seems that the University of Hail (formerly Hail Community College) has problems in staffing.

They are having problems in recruiting and keeping staff. Why have so many left of their own accord or after being fired ?

Come on, let us hear some of the horror stories !

brasscat · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: The Hail Horror Show

Yes, there are many stories of those who have been to Hail and back.

In a nutshell, the place is a Mickey Mouse outfit being run by some very goofy people.

The residents often sing the song, "When You Wish Upon A Mishar, It Doesn't Matter, You Won't Go Very Far..."

Stay tuned.....

skullydude06 · Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 30 Location: ATLANTA

I have a friend who works at hail and he said it is okay. What is wrong with this school? Do they hire teachers with no experience?

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

I've heard:

brasscat · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: Hail, The Non-experience

Messed-up text books is just the beginning of the UOH story.

The only people who like it here are with the "Mutes Group" who go along with the Neopotism oriented leadership positions.

The key word is: Wasta. Forget qualifed.

Late pay, renigged on overtimepay, and contract breeches are the norm.

If you enjoy substandard housing and living in a gulag style compund in the desert, this is paradise.

No phones in the offices. No internet for the office PCs. You buy your supplies. No CD players for classroom presentations.

Besides this place is in violation of Saudi Law. Your Iqama is supposed to be provided to you when you arrive for free.

No iqama and when you get one it is SAR 500.

Oh by the way, did I mention your housing is next to a Carnival Show. nice noise until midnight every night.

Just got to love it.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

brasscat · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: Word Symantics

If you want to play about with words, then enjoy Hail, it is just your place.

renigged = backed out or refused to do.

If it makes you happy, then go with broke the terms of the contract.

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

I don't think I'd enjoy Hail; everybody from there who posts on the forum seems so ill-tempered and crotchety.

'Reneged' and 'breaches' by the way.

And 'nepotism'. 'Neopotism' sounds like a new way of getting sozzled.

007 · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject:

I think some English native speakers need a refreshment course in English before going to teach in the ME.
What a pity for the Saudi students.

Rennenkampf · Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Hail

Rennenkampf · Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 91 Location: Hail

Hail is actually a magnificent place where one can live in primal simplicity and sepulchral isolation.

007 · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:43 am Post subject:

Stephen Jones · Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124

cassava · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 175

Many of the problems faced by the University of Hail are normal for educational institutions in the Middle East that are undergoing a process of rapid change. Critics of UOH tend to ignore this simple fact; instead they direct their rage and malice at easily identifiable targets. Their inability to see the big picture causes them to spew fort a steady stream of venom. This kind of attitude is unwarranted and does little to enable potential new teachers to evaluate the instituion in a fair and unbiased manner.