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tricia11



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: whats the deal with finding getting a job?? Reply with quote

I am beginning to think that I need to physcially fly somewhere knock on thier door and ask for an interview? Is my fantasy of teaching EFL only that I have sent out like frickin 30 resumes had a few interviews etc. but to no avail.


Hmmmmmmmmm...... Does anyone have the real low down or can you tell me how you landed your first gig?

much thanks!! Tricia11
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What countries did you apply to work in?
What is your background/education?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Education? none .. by the looks of it ...

Is your CV in better shape than your post .. even the cowboy shops want people that can write properly ...
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am beginning to think that I need to physcially fly somewhere knock on thier door and ask for an interview? Is my fantasy of teaching EFL only that I have sent out like frickin 30 resumes had a few interviews etc. but to no avail.

Hmmmmmmmmm...... Does anyone have the real low down or can you tell me how you landed your first gig?

much thanks!! Tricia11


Don't quit! Many schools simply take a long time to return correspondence. This is true, wholesale, with many countries as well.

Perhaps consider re-sending your emails.

Like they say, "Throw enough sh*t against the wall, and some is bound to stick". Cool

Good luck.
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jammish



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming that you wrote that post in a hurry, and that your CV is somewhat better written/presented, you also need to mention where you are looking for a job. You have given us no information about qualifications, desired location, etc. Without any of that your request is somewhat vague... Different countries have different application procedures.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: whats the deal with finding getting a job?? Reply with quote

tricia11 wrote:
I am beginning to think that I need to physcially fly somewhere knock on thier door and ask for an interview? Is my fantasy of teaching EFL only that I have sent out like frickin 30 resumes had a few interviews etc. but to no avail.


Hmmmmmmmmm...... Does anyone have the real low down or can you tell me how you landed your first gig?

much thanks!! Tricia11


Gordon has made a good point. You may have sent out "like frickin 30 resumes" but where have you sent them to?

My fellow sheikh has also made a good point. What is on your resume? That's pretty important as to where you are qualified and what type of teaching you will be able to do.

Unless you can answer these questions no one here can give you any solid advice.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she hasn't already, the OP might benefit from reading the earlier thread on cover letters, in which many recruiters comment on the standards of some wannabe TEFLers ...

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=48315
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bigbadsuzie



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Sheik you do hand out useful advice sometimes then ! I do find it ironic that some of the most vocal comments about poorly written covering letters are less than perfectly done themselves . If they preach it ,then why don't they practise it ?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to do my bit now and again ...
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johnnyenglishteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject: Yes, go there! Reply with quote

You can find jobs in European capital cities just by going from school to school with your CV, especially in Central/Eastern Europe. Also, telephone is a better way to get a job than e-mail.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a previous post by the OP:
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I have a few questions as a somewhat clueless beginner in this field. I have just finished an onling TEFL class and I have a bachelors degree but not a lot of teaching experience.

A Bachelors and a TEFL certificate are enough to find entry-level work in countries such as China or Indonesia. If no one is biting, then I suspect that it's a matter of presentation. Have you had someone else proofread your cover letter and your resume? As suggested above, there are sites available with samples you should take a look at.
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tricia11



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re Reply with quote

Hello and thanks to everyone who posted on this. Yes I did write it in a hurry.... I do have a TEFL certificate, a Bachelor's Degree, and what I thought a good resume and cover letter as I have had it proofread by my Aunt who is an editor.

I will check out the links for TEFL cover letters perhaps I need to tweak mine a bit more.

Thanks to all who were helpful and to all SHeik or whatever buzz off!
I applied mostly to Latin Amerian countries, Mexico, Peru, Chile, Brazil, Costa Rica.

I have limited teaching experience, some in a pre-school and more teaching in a University Dance program; which I know is not EFL but it is what I have.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem lies in that you're applying to Latin American countries. Schools here prefer to hire face-to-face; given a choice between an anonymous resume or the backpacker knocking at their door, most usually choose the backpacker.

Some ideas:
1) Check out the Latin American forums. Ask questions there; someone may be hiring.

2) Pick a place you like, come for a visit, and start knocking on doors. Be the backpacker.

3) Try applying to schools in China, Korea, Indonesia, or Taiwan. They are more desperate and more willing to hire an unknown.

Good luck.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

won't hurry I else well in frickin helping be anyone a frickin!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would be interesting to know how many countries don't require applicants to be there (generally, anyway) for a face to face interview. I can't imagine being an employer and hiring someone sight unseen. Pretty arrogant to think you'd get hired just on the strength of a resume, especially so early in one's career.

Here in Japan, 30 resumes is about par for university job hunting. Maybe even a bit on the low side. I got one interview out of all that. There are 20-100 people applying for every job.

As for any other type of job, I would expect about a 10% rate of return calls. Shoot for the percentages and make a quality resume and cover letter.

An editor can look things over for spelling, grammar, and general format, tricia, but unless your aunt is well-versed in resumes for TEFL work, I'd have to say consider getting another person as well to look over your resume and cover letter. Sometimes people on these forums know more than people back home, and they are willing to look over resumes to give advice. I do, but not for those countries you are interested in.
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