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Malaysia Anyone????????
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plutodog1818



Joined: 22 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Malaysia Anyone???????? Reply with quote

Dave's does not have a forum on Malaysia so I decided this was as close as I could get.

Any one know about salary for teaching at an International College or University in Kuala Lumpur????

I am going to teach English and am from the USA.

All information and help is really appreciated. By the way how is the living there in general? I understand it is very modern and Westernized. Can you confirm?

Thank you.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Pluto,

I teach at a university-college. I think KL is a great place to live.

Salary should be somewhere between RM 7-8,000 to be truly happy.

You can PM me if you want, but lets try to keep this open so others can read about Malaysia.

Peace,

The Saint
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plutodog1818



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saint:

I appreciate your response. May I ask if you are an expat and from what country?

Does your contract include housing? If so is it furnished and modern?

Is your University public or private? Are the salaries different?

By the way I love to fish. Is there deep sea fishing there?

Thank you.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a Canadian teacher working in a Canadian program at a private university-college. I'm not sure about public universities, but I imagine they have a SERIOUS bias towards hiring Malays (Bumiputra).

I'm not into fishing, but it's very popular here.

I get a housing allowance as part of my salary. My apartment is fully furnished and modern. Here are some photos from my blog.





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Hod



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saint57 wrote:
Salary should be somewhere between RM 7-8,000 to be truly happy.


He's at it again. Come on pal, you're making out folk have to get this sort of money or just join that huge queue over there for the soup kitchen. The amount of teachers getting paid that are few and far between, and that�s a humungous exaggeration on my part.

My other half�s Malaysian and when she worked there she was getting about RM2000, which is pretty bloody good for a local. OK OK, locals live with families, pay no rent, blah blah blah. But when I was a teacher in KL, I got RM3500 and was more than happy. I ate out every single night, drunk beer in Bangsar, went out bloody loads, drunk beer in Sri Hartamas, travelled in Malaysia, bought books, went everywhere by taxi, drunk beer in Bukit Bintang. You know, if I lived in the UK/USA/Canada, I�d have had to earn 40000 UK pounds a year net for that lifestyle.

Saint, this RM8000, are you telling me you blow this every month? You must be Bangsar�s biggest boozer, live in a Damansara Heights palace and gamble at Genting every weekend or you�d better start watch that spending lah. I�m not trying to make out I�m a pauper, far from it, but the good life in KL with booze starts at RM3500.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting in July, I've have over RM 9,000 to blow per month. I had to do OT this year to get over RM 7,000. This year I am making the least out of anyone I know.

If the teachers making this kind of money are rare, then I'd say the ones making RM 3,500-RM 4,000 are extinct because I have yet to meet one.
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zorro (3)



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for your information Pluto, apparently there is no forum here for Malaysia because the demand is not high enough. I was told this by a credible source. I'm sure you will also be told by the same credible source.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Zorro,

You might want to talk to Hod or Micropiget about salaries in Malaysia. They are the ones on the other side of the RM 4,000 debate. Actually, last I heard, MicroP got a promotion. Since, I haven't heard from him/her in a long time I'm assuming that he/she has learned that Malaysia is a different place when you have some money.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any place gets better with more money, no argument there.

I'll also add that although my other half is Malaysian and I go there 3 times a year from Europe, I'd now never work in Malaysia again on anything like RM4000. But that's just my circumstances, and I still know anyone could have a genuinely good one or two years on that money.

Anyone earning RM9000 must be in the top 10-20% money earners in Malaysia. A local on that would have their own property and drive around in a Merc. Fair play to Saint if he blows RM9000 a month, but I'm intrigued to know how.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll also add that although my other half is Malaysian and I go there 3 times a year from Europe, I'd now never work in Malaysia again on anything like RM4000. But that's just my circumstances, and I still know anyone could have a genuinely good one or two years on that money.


Ok, the debate is settled. I will agree that a young man/woman who has just finished university can have a good time on RM 4,000. Heck, I was in China a couple of years ago on 5,500 RMB. However, I'm past the point in my life where I'm just looking to get by. It also appears that you are the same way.

I do send money home to pay back my student loan. I also have a little extra to cover a few months. I just graduated from teachers' college last year and this is my first real teaching gig. I love it, but it is challenging. I get a heck of a lot of holidays and when they come I like to travel. I also go out on Friday and Saturdays.

I finally have a girlfriend so, my spending has gone down recently.
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saint57



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to add that I could buy a nicer place here than I could on a teacher's salary in Toronto or the suburbs. The Mercedes thing is going a bit too far though. I could get an ok Proton.

More info for people wanting to live in Malaysia:

- Traffic jams can be terrible.
- Malaysians are crazy drivers.
- I bought a scooter and I say a prayer every time I get on it. Every day I'm alive is a blessing after the accident I had with a dumptruck. I'm not a religious person.
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leonconnelly



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: money isnt everything Reply with quote

Most language svhools pay RM3500 or less to start. The money gets better after the first year. I have an amazing apartment that I could never afford in Sydney. I can manage very well on my salary and 25% of it goes on child support. I can afford a car, pay TV, internet access, too much booze, too many cigarettes, eating out a lot, and the occassional holiday or day trip.

The problem here is the schools are owned by business people whose sole aim is shaking every possible cent out of students. There are a couple of schools owned and operated by teachers that are different. Good money and they actually focus on teaching stduents instead of profit. They are small but growing very fast so if you want to work here let me know and i will provide details.

The roads drive me crazy too.
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hilarybray



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Malaysia Anyone???????? Reply with quote

plutodog1818 wrote:
Dave's does not have a forum on Malaysia so I decided this was as close as I could get.


I agree it would be good if there was a dedicated Malaysia Forum.
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bule_boy69



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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Location: Jakarta

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: So where do you look? Reply with quote

Thanks to those in Malaysia who take the time to post here.

Yeah, there isn't much out there on teaching in Malaysia.....

I pass through KL every year or so....just got back actually... and it's one place I'd consider relocating to. I'm presently in Australia, but will probably be heading to SE Asia at the end of the year.

But I was also under the impression that work in KL (as an ESL teacher) was not terribly easy to get and that money was not an attraction. I heard that ESLers got around RM 3000.. less than in neighbouring capitals but with a higher cost of living....

I would like to be told otherwise...

Also, I hardly ever see any adverts for jobs in KL...

So, any info from people there as too where to go for work is greatly appreciated.

O yeah Saint...

How do we go about getting these jobs for RM 8000+ then>?

I got a Degree in SE Asian studies, a TESOL cert, an Australian Grad Dip Ed (Indonesian lang and Social studies methods). Got a bit of foreign language and ESL teaching experience after getting my Diploma..but not loads...

Any advice?

Cheers folks...
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Vanica



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CfBT offers 4000 for English teachers.
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