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ripslyme
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| Why would you want to be a licenced teacher in Japan. Your responsibilities would go up ten fold, and would your paye really increase that much. If you want to teach so much why not get a Canadian, or English, or Australian or whatever licence and go back to your country of origin. Excuse me but, what earthly reason would one want to be a permanent public school teacher in Japan. |
Some people want to live in Japan permanently. Having a Japanese teaching license would make a teaching career more feasible. |
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Alberta605
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Time to end the use of ALTs? Couldn't agree more - particularly as the system goes as well with the Japanese public school system as horse n' chips.
It all depends how effectively ALT's are used, or even if they are used at all. In most cases the Japanese English teacher isn't interested enough or skilled enough to really get whatever good there is from it. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Some people want to live in Japan permanently. Having a Japanese teaching license would make a teaching career more feasible. |
You would still be subject to the usual 3-year contract B.S., and even Japanese teachers face that. |
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sushi
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I don't get the legality bit about teaching without a japanese co-teacher. So whaat if a japanese kid comes and lays the sexual harrasment word. geeze your an adult. Your response to such should be eenough to brush it off. If you are someone to be shocked by kids saying that stuff then you got problems. Why the hell wouldn't you just say 'YEa, Yea,Yea" and then "Ok kid go take a hike" . That would diffuse the situation no matter who was listening. People aren't stupid. If the adults within earshot heard that kinda remark surely they would just laugh. WTF
What are you going to do to your studentss that aa Japanese teacher wouldn't do. Do they worry about getting canned for some offense that aint in all probability ever going to happen. Oh man. If that aaint thee laimest thing ever. How and why would there ever be such a stupid lame arsed rule about teaching alone in a Japanese classroom. Can someone quote the sourse of such a rule. Sonds like a bunch a bulls--it, the ALT outsourcing doods kooked up to keep their jobs as outsourcing people. They don't want any problems. because they will lose their lucrative outsourcing contracts methinks. They probably pocket the equivalent of everybodys wage on your paye days. Half the money provided by the Japanes government for alt ccontracts probly gets syphoned into someone elses pocket. Probably abunch of japanese Americans, or japanese canadians latching on to the japanese yen methiks. They probably read this board and laugh their heads off at the syupidity of some of Japans English teachers |
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Glenski
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| I don't get the legality bit about teaching without a japanese co-teacher. |
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| Oh man. If that aaint thee laimest thing ever. How and why would there ever be such a stupid lame arsed rule about teaching alone in a Japanese classroom. |
Just accept it. It's not something up for debate. A lot of it boils down to less than 100% fluency in Japanese, I would guess.
Do you argue the legitimacy for traffic rules, too? |
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JimDunlop2
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| Oh man. If that aaint thee laimest thing ever. How and why would there ever be such a stupid lame arsed rule about teaching alone in a Japanese classroom. Can someone quote the sourse of such a rule. Sonds like a bunch a bulls--it, the ALT outsourcing doods kooked up to keep their jobs as outsourcing people. They don't want any problems. because they will lose their lucrative outsourcing contracts methinks. They probably pocket the equivalent of everybodys wage on your paye days. Half the money provided by the Japanes government for alt ccontracts probly gets syphoned into someone elses pocket. Probably abunch of japanese Americans, or japanese canadians latching on to the japanese yen methiks. They probably read this board and laugh their heads off at the syupidity of some of Japans English teachers |
Jeez... Were you sober when you wrote that? I could barely make sense out of that rambling and typos.
Like what Glenski said -- this isn't something that's up for debate, nor is it something that was invented or made-up by an outsourcing company. In the city where I live and work, we are all employed DIRECTLY through the BoE (as employees of the city). There is no middle man to be pocketing money and profiteering from our employment...
In fact, we are not ALTs at all... The city, actually has a general policy of hiring QUALIFIED and LICENSED teachers from the United States (I am one of several exceptions to that)... But it's a fact that even those teachers who have their teaching licenses back home in the U.S. are not allowed to teach alone in the classroom here. End of story. How WE feel (or they feel) about that is irrelevant -- it doesn't even fit into the equation. It's just not allowed.
Like I said before, my reasons for preferring to have a JTE in the classroom reach far beyond any "fear of sexual harassment" claims. |
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furiousmilksheikali
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I don't get the legality bit about teaching without a japanese co-teacher. So whaat if a japanese kid comes and lays the sexual harrasment word. geeze your an adult. Your response to such should be eenough to brush it off. If you are someone to be shocked by kids saying that stuff then you got problems. Why the hell wouldn't you just say 'YEa, Yea,Yea" and then "Ok kid go take a hike" . That would diffuse the situation no matter who was listening. People aren't stupid. If the adults within earshot heard that kinda remark surely they would just laugh. WTF
What are you going to do to your studentss that aa Japanese teacher wouldn't do. Do they worry about getting canned for some offense that aint in all probability ever going to happen. Oh man. If that aaint thee laimest thing ever. How and why would there ever be such a stupid lame arsed rule about teaching alone in a Japanese classroom. Can someone quote the sourse of such a rule. Sonds like a bunch a bulls--it, the ALT outsourcing doods kooked up to keep their jobs as outsourcing people. They don't want any problems. because they will lose their lucrative outsourcing contracts methinks. They probably pocket the equivalent of everybodys wage on your paye days. Half the money provided by the Japanes government for alt ccontracts probly gets syphoned into someone elses pocket. Probably abunch of japanese Americans, or japanese canadians latching on to the japanese yen methiks. They probably read this board and laugh their heads off at the syupidity of some of Japans English teachers |
By most people's standards that was a piss-poor post. At best it was a pointless uninformed and badly-written musing on what you think "probably" happens. At worst it was simply dangerous misinformation with a couple of insulting slurs thrown in (the highlighted sentence in particular.)
But by your standards it was probably one of your best and you probably couldn't write a better one if you tried. |
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cornishmuppet
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Wow, Sushi, your spelling is worse than mine! That must have been a booze-flavoured post.
I don't see the problem. Public schools in other countries wouldn't let an unqualified teacher teach solo (or I'd be surprised if they would), no matter how much experience they have. Personally, I'm happy to have a JTE in the classroom, whether they do anything or not. |
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sushi
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Sorry "Cornishmuppet" . I felt I just had to vent. I would appreciate verification though of a lot of the rules, because In Asia they get bent a lot. Seems as though people in the teaching profession in Japan and other parts of Asia aren't held to the same level of accountability that they would be if they were in a western country.
Anyway here is more rant.
So how come there are teachers teaching without JTEs, and where is the Japanese equivalent of such a rule. Come on give us a link. Otherwise it's all bulls--t. You can't just say that's the way it is and no question about it. Please document it. I think a lot a people on this discussion site would like to know the source of your missinformation.
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| So how come there are teachers teaching without JTEs, |
Which teachers are you talking about? Private school teachers? International school teachers? Eikaiwa teachers?
They don't need to have JTEs with them because they are not teaching in the public sector. Those that do need to have the correct qualifications. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I don't get the legality bit about teaching without a japanese co-teacher. So whaat if a japanese kid comes and lays the sexual harrasment word. geeze your an adult. Your response to such should be eenough to brush it off. If you are someone to be shocked by kids saying that stuff then you got problems. Why the hell wouldn't you just say 'YEa, Yea,Yea" and then "Ok kid go take a hike" . That would diffuse the situation no matter who was listening. People aren't stupid. If the adults within earshot heard that kinda remark surely they would just laugh. WTF
What are you going to do to your studentss that aa Japanese teacher wouldn't do. Do they worry about getting canned for some offense that aint in all probability ever going to happen. Oh man. If that aaint thee laimest thing ever. How and why would there ever be such a stupid lame arsed rule about teaching alone in a Japanese classroom. Can someone quote the sourse of such a rule. Sonds like a bunch a bulls--it, the ALT outsourcing doods kooked up to keep their jobs as outsourcing people. They don't want any problems. because they will lose their lucrative outsourcing contracts methinks. They probably pocket the equivalent of everybodys wage on your paye days. Half the money provided by the Japanes government for alt ccontracts probly gets syphoned into someone elses pocket. Probably abunch of japanese Americans, or japanese canadians latching on to the japanese yen methiks. They probably read this board and laugh their heads off at the syupidity of some of Japans English teachers |
"Methiks" many people laugh at the "syupidity" of of the above poster on this board.  |
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furiousmilksheikali
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| Oh reelly Cannuk? Thattt's all a byullshyte! Shew me docummonts! |
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sushi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Be greatfull that I give you guys something to write about. Otherwise what in the world would you do with your spare time. |
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canuck
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Be greatfull that I give you guys something to write about. Otherwise what in the world would you do with your spare time. |
"Were greatfull" (sic, double sic)  |
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cornishmuppet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| How come there are people driving 120km/h on the highway, when all those signs say 80? |
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