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Another Westgate question (Yes, I tried searching first)

 
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Another Westgate question (Yes, I tried searching first) Reply with quote

How hard is it to find another job while working for Westgate? I ask because it seems like you work during business hours all week with only weekends free to look around. How can you find something else to do when your contract is up with a schedule like that?
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furiousmilksheikali



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Location: In a coffee shop, splitting a 30,000 yen tab with Sekiguchi.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Westgate question (Yes, I tried searching first) Reply with quote

Omeo wrote:
How hard is it to find another job while working for Westgate? I ask because it seems like you work during business hours all week with only weekends free to look around. How can you find something else to do when your contract is up with a schedule like that?



Plenty of people find new employment while they are currently working, there are new inventions such as the Internet, telephones, fax machines and letters and envelopes that allow you to search for other employment even if you work business hours. If not then the majority of people would have to quit their job before finding anything new.

This is hardly a Japan-specific or ESL-specific question. Have you never voluntarily changed jobs in your life?
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was referring to when you'd have time for an interview.

Yes, I've voluntarily changed jobs many times. I've only been fired once. But when I changed jobs before, I did the interview on a day off from the job I already had. I posted the question because it seems like one might have a hard time being available for an interview given the work schedule at Westgate.
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canuck



Joined: 11 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omeo wrote:
I was referring to when you'd have time for an interview.

Yes, I've voluntarily changed jobs many times. I've only been fired once. But when I changed jobs before, I did the interview on a day off from the job I already had. I posted the question because it seems like one might have a hard time being available for an interview given the work schedule at Westgate.


Weekends, mornings, afternoons or evenings. You don't work 24/7 in Japan. Confused
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other companies will interview during those times? I assumed they'd be closed outside of normal business hours.
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, nevermind. I'll just take your word for it. Thanx.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omeo wrote:
Other companies will interview during those times? I assumed they'd be closed outside of normal business hours.


You assumed wrong. Different companies interview at different times...sometimes in the morning, sometimes in the afternoon, sometimes in the evening, sometimes on weekends, sometimes on public holidays. This is just common sense.
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ripslyme



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a hot tip:
If a prospective employer schedules an interview during weekday regular business hours.... call in sick from your current job and go to the interview. shhhh! It's a secret.
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Omeo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you couldn't call in sick in Japan unless you were near death and had proof of it.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regular university teachers call in sick. The semester has built-in flexible time to do that, and as long as they hold 13-15 classes per semester, it's ok. They just have to make up the missed days, somehow, whether on the same day of a different week, or on Saturday. Perhaps WC will allow this, too.

But, do you really work 12 hours a day for WC? I think not. You should have some free time in there to schedule an interview.
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ripslyme



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omeo wrote:
I thought you couldn't call in sick in Japan unless you were near death and had proof of it.


Why does it matter if you're going to jump ship anyway?

BTW, at most reputable employers you can just call in and say "I'm sick. I can't come to work today" (sound sick, of course). Then fill out a form when you get back to work, doctor's note or no. At least, that's how it works at my school.
(edit to add: Oh and calling in sick like this has no bearing on my monthly pay either.)
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sundissentialgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: the actual answer to your question Reply with quote

Yes, you do work 12 hours a day at westgate. You'll only be teaching 6 or 7 40 minute classes during that time, but you have to be onsite approx 9 hours a day and your commute could be anything upto 90 mins each way (mine was 50 mins each way).

You can call in sick (I did and many others during my term there without serious consequences) but they will try to make you go to hospital. Just refuse, say you've got chronic stomach probs and you can't leave the barthroom, let alone negotiate a trip to the hospital unaccompanied and in Japanese. This worked for me.

So you can go for an interview elsewhere during office hours but you'll have to call in sick and make sure that once you've done it you turn off your mobile phone, or else Westgate'll be ringing you every hour for an update!

Hope this answers your question Very Happy
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omeo, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but judging from some of the questions you have asked here lately, do you really think you can handle living overseas? Questions like this and whether or not you can get a job in Nagoya and how hard it would be are really common sense I think or something we cannot answer for you. I am not trying to insult you, just wondering if you have put a lot of thought into living away from home.

On the other hand, you might be a person who just needs to have all the answers before he/she goes somewhere. Life is a bit of a risk, you don't always know where you'll end up, that is the thrill of it.
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