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cgeorge
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 Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: Local onsite training & certification? |
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I was wondering if anyone out there is from Winnipeg, MB (Canada) and could recommend a good local onsite ESL course.
I know there are some available here but apparently they don't have websites that google wants to show me. I would prefer to take an evening course as I can't afford time off at my current job & I would rather go in person instead of over the internet where I won't get the practical experience. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Local onsite training & certification? |
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| I Googled 'CELTA' and it came back with: University of Winnipeg (Division of Continuing Education). Most colleges offer both evening and intensive versions of the program. If they don't have something that fits your schedule then they'll undoubtedly know what other schools have programs. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Local onsite training & certification? |
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| mlomker wrote: |
| I Googled 'CELTA' and it came back with: University of Winnipeg (Division of Continuing Education). Most colleges offer both evening and intensive versions of the program. If they don't have something that fits your schedule then they'll undoubtedly know what other schools have programs. |
"College" doesn't mean "university" in Canada.
from TESL Canada's website. http://www.tesl.ca/
Providence College & Seminary Teacher Training Program in TESOL/August 2005-2010 www.prov.ca This program is eligible for Professional Certificate Standard One.
University of Manitoba Certificate in TESL/June 2002-July 2011 umanitoba.ca/coned/language This program is eligible for Professional Certificate Standard One.
University of Winnipeg ESL Teacher Certificate Program/ December 2006-2011 www.dce.uwinnipeg.ca This program is eligible for Professional Certificate Standard One. This institution offers a stand-alone practicum. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Local onsite training & certification? |
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| GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
| "College" doesn't mean "university" in Canada. |
That's true, the 4-year institutions in my area have all renamed themselves as universities. College tends to be reserved for 2-year schools.
Does the distinction matter when you're talking about a certificate program? Most of the overseas CELTA offerings aren't at a school of higher learning at all. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: Re: Local onsite training & certification? |
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| mlomker wrote: |
| GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
| "College" doesn't mean "university" in Canada. |
That's true, the 4-year institutions in my area have all renamed themselves as universities. College tends to be reserved for 2-year schools. |
Actually, they're often three year programmes in Canada (almost always in Ontario, other than the programmes for people who already have a university degree or possibly a three-year college diploma), and have different kinds of programmes from universities, with a different application process, different fee structure, different focus and different result (diploma in something you can use directly in an actual career versus degree in theories of history etc with very little actual applicability other than Engineering, Computer Science, Business, or possibly Fine Arts Studio type things). University degrees tend to be either three or four years (up to five for some joint majors- normally ones that are basically like a college diploma and a university degree at the same time).
| mlomker wrote: |
Does the distinction matter when you're talking about a certificate program? Most of the overseas CELTA offerings aren't at a school of higher learning at all. |
The OP is talking about getting training in Canada- not 'overseas' for Canadians- and no, a lot of programmes are in institutes of higher learning (Just look at the list from TESL Canada). A CELTA isn't always an acceptable TESL qualification in Canada (It isn't enough training in Ontario, although private langauge schools can hire whoever they want) You can actually see immigration patterns in Canada just by looking at the TESL Canada website and seeing which provinces have the most recognized programmes. There are a few in each province, and only one of the territories, except BC and Ontario, where there are tonnes. Quebec doesn't have many, but it's a special situation, because immigrants who go to Quebec have to learn French instead (it's actually a requirement of being accepted there). It's not quite as hard to get into Canada through Quebec so many immigrants go to Quebec, stay for a year and learn a bit of French, and then head on over to Toronto where there are a lot more jobs (but without realizing that there is also a lot more competition for those jobs) and where they can learn English, which, outside of Quebec (and to a lesser extent New Brunswick, and of course Ottawa), is the language used. |
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mlomker
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Local onsite training & certification? |
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| GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
| It's not quite as hard to get into Canada through Quebec so many immigrants go to Quebec, stay for a year and learn a bit of French, and then head on over to Toronto where there are a lot more jobs |
Thanks for the information! It's very interesting. I haven't been to Quebec yet and it is on my to-do list. The only place that I've been is Toronto and I loved it there...such a clean city. I did take a look at the employment ads and was dismayed by the salary difference. I certainly wouldn't move to Canada if income was my goal. |
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