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voltaire
Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 179 Location: 'The secret of being boring is to say everything.'
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: ZZZ |
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papillon
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 91
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I'll add my tuppence's worth...
Bali, Taman Raya (formerly Mahatma Gandhi)..
In fairness they pay on time and are a reasonable bunch of people to work for but...
What a shambles.
No resources to speak of, terrible discipline issues in the school and a lousy working atmosphere.
Yes, you may be in Bali and lucky to have a job but the level of ego pandering that goes on at this school amongst the Indian sector is enough to fuel several distasteful MTV reality shows.
Freud would've had a field day with this bunch of madmen... Especially owner and self styled Guru 'Ram'. A barely functioning octogenerian in the last throes of senility who called a department meeting some weeks ago and instructed the staff to teach Macbeth by song and not text...
To students sitting literature A-Levels.. |
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gugelhupf
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Any school that asks for a 'church reference' in addition to the usual variety is usually worth avoiding.
Nat plus schools with their own 'unique curriculum' that sounds too good to be true are generally charlatans - play safe and stick to IB, Cambridge IGCSE etc. |
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Chester
Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 383 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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EEP. run by bunch of sleezy drunk foreigners. would steal their grandmothers pension money. one coordinator reputedly is wanted in new zealand for absconding cash from a bank.
generally allround great guys. |
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evegoodmon
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| This forum is totally negative and is not constructive. People hide behind anonymous nicknames and are not prepred to meet personally with their managers to resolve issues constructively. |
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beefer
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| evegoodmon wrote: |
| This forum is totally negative and is not constructive. |
i agree totally. i've said it before, and i'll say it again that voltaire is an angry man who appears to hate every school out there...i don't think that most of the problems he has with these schools are the schools themselves, but instead can be found in his mirror.
some people just don't seem to work out well here.........so voltaire, you've got your trust fund, take it and try to accomplish something elsewhere before all these evil schools in indonesia, that you can't seem to figure out, drive you crazy |
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wildgoose78
Joined: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: About RICS being yeeesh... |
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Just FYI, RICS is totally different from the RICS you or we knew before. You will be suprised with the modern administration the school has. If any one of you have friends currently working with RICS, go ask them. RICS is the only school with the TRANSPARENT pay structure for teachers in Jakarta.
If u had a bad experience with RICS before, sorry for you. But the RICS now... hmmmmmm...... better!!!!
And RICS will pay if you can REALLY teach, not just TALK!
Ciao! |
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drgonzo
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 82
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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I don't agree that this thread is pointless.
There are a lot of schools out there that try to take advantage of teachers, especially fresh ones that don't know what to watch out for.
I was lucky when I got started in ESL as I had a lot of friends from which to get advice. Not everyone considering coming to Indonesia to teach is so lucky, so it is very useful to see both the positive and negative opinions that exist for each school.
If you read through my postings you will see that I give a positive review of Inlingua, but a negative view of ILP, EF, and Shines Education. These are the ones I have experience with, and I think it's valuable to share this experience with others.
I think most reasonable people that read these forums will know that one person's negative experience does not mean they are destined to have the same negative experience with that school... but it at least gives them something to watch for. |
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beefer
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| drgonzo wrote: |
| These are the ones I have experience with, and I think it's valuable to share this experience with others. |
yes, it is great to share your experience with others. unfortunately some people aren't sharing experiences, and instead choose to bad-mouth any and all places that may or may not have wronged them.
my example is this,
voltaire says that any and all branches of ila as well as any and all branches of ef should be avoided.
it seems pretty ignorant of voltaire to assume that all efs and ils are the same. comments like this are made by people with nothing better to do and garbage info like this doesn't help anybody
i hope no new person comes to read this thread and assumes that voltaire may somehow actually have first hand knowledge of the runnings of every ( and all) of the ila and efs. sure, some are bad and i won't try to say any different from that fact except that i worked for a few of them in the past and had no trouble during my time there. all the schools are different and in my experience i would easily say that the good far outweigh the bad.
still, voltaire is obviously more than entitled to express his opinions but lets try to keep it factual and accurate atleast.
does anyone else notice that every couple of months or so, some "teacher" comes on here and starts a thread exactly like this one and proceeds to bash every school they can think of in an effort to make themselves feel better and only end up prolonging the arrival of that certain moment in time when they realize that it is their own overestimation of their abilities and value as a "teacher" in indonesia that is causing them the most problems.
seriously voltaire, if complaining about stuff all the time ( your posts have been like this for months now) is where you are at in life, then maybe trying to do this job in this country isn't the right place for you.... at this point in time. |
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beefer
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 238 Location: java
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| i meant "lia" not "ila"........sorry |
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