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How do we measure our success ?

 
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billybuzz



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: How do we measure our success ? Reply with quote

Yes, we are confronted with this issue on an almost daily basis and yet our own performance and how we carry out our various tasks and duties is evaluated in such a way that smacks of bias towards the members of the teaching staff who are "favoured" . Is this true in your place of work ?Recent developments in my beloved uni suggest that is all going to change ,and change for the better we hope .The big question in my mind is who gets to do the evaluating us or them ? Those who have less time in the classroom are seen as those best able to evaluate us.Is this fair? Is it realistic ?
Many companies in the industrial sector offer insights and suggestions as to how this process takes place,but we are not factory workers (yes really ) we do not have to go for productivity targets .So how do we measure our success and should we ever use the word "failure" ?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it can be measured. As an observer I can certainly see which things are effective. The only things that can be measured is how many students pass an exam. Then, is it down to you or the students hard/lack of work?

The great man, Nazif Ulgen once suggested at a Directors' meeting that teachers should be paid by the number of students s/he had. Can you imagine the uproar if he had insisted on this? Would you want the beginner class of 14 or the advanced class of 4? His belief was that the good teachers kept their students.
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thrifty



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Sayin Nazif Ulgen -hocam izindeyiz Reply with quote

Do not take his name in vain. He should be accorded the same status for Turkey TEFLers as Ataturk is to most Turks.

Sayin Nazif Ulgen
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He should be accorded the same status for Turkey TEFLers as Ataturk is to most Turks.
So who was his Ismet Inonu? TG?
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ghost



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: subjectivity Reply with quote

Teaching is not an exact science and students respond differently to different teachers.

Measuring success in the classroom can be a tricky business, because you may (as a teacher) be successful in one place and not so in the next - different people, students, different management, and a host of other variables make teaching a crap shoot in general, especially in a place like Turkey, where the unpredictable is......predictable....

The world more often rewards outward signs of merit than merit itself.
La Rochefoucauld

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thrifty



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
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He should be accorded the same status for Turkey TEFLers as Ataturk is to most Turks.
So who was his Ismet Inonu? TG?


No-the ex-English Fast Kadikoy General Manager
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kiddy fiddler he met in prison who was head of the Kadikoy branch for years?(can't remember his name)
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FGT



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm far too provioncial for all that. I have fond memories of arriving to work at English Fast, Izmir in 1993 and being met at the airport by the DOS and told of the owner's time served in prison for fraud - that was before I'd even started working there. I didn't cut and run. I enjoyed working at Fast for five years. Istanbul life seems to be (or have been) much more exciting!

And, thinking about what I've just written, those were the good old days! Now, if I heard the same I'd run a mile; then, I was one of the best paid and most respected teachers in Izmir. How things have changed! You can't trust an honest crook these days, teachers get ripped off all the time, in those days life was cushy in comparison.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do we measure our success? By the number of evil spirits we ward off -

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Published: 26/03/2007 12:00 AM (UAE)

Teacher detained while practising black magic
By Nasouh Nazzal, Staff Reporter


Ras Al Khaimah: An Egyptian teacher has been detained for practising black magic.

.. The Egyptian suspect had called the father of the Palestinian pupil telling him the boy's academic performance was poor and that he needed private lessons to improve ...

... The father said he was not home when the teacher came (to give the lesson) but the teacher called him over the phone informing him that his son was suffering from major problems and that he was "under the influence of a jinni [demon]" which "came" from his mother.

The father added that he was confused and immediately returned home. On the man's way home, he reported the case to the police. When he reached, he saw the teacher had already hypnotised the boy and the boy had fallen unconscious.


http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Police_and_The_Courts/10113788.html
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