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Chris_Travel_the_world



Joined: 06 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Why Japan? Reply with quote

I was just wondering why people are still coming to Japan? Granted I came, but that was in large part because I had a Japanese girlfriend at the time. If someone is looking to save money Korea is a much better choice, and the middle east a far greater one still, if you are willing to accept the dangers of it. If you are coming because you want to be treated like a rockstar, sorry no luck there either, go to China. If it's about the culture, then I am sorry to let you in on a little secret, most Japanese people know and care very little about their culture. You have to search out traditional culture and it's never very cheap, almost every temple and castle charge a fee. If it's for the women...well..they are great but is that reason enough? If you were a Japanese studies major, then why did you study Japanese studies in the first place? Kinda useless isn't it?

Don't get me wrong! I love Japan! I have a lot of friends and am having a blast! I'm now in the process debating over whether or not to stay for another year and I am wondering if I hadn't had the Japanese girlfriend if it would be a logical choice to come here.

Just looking to hear your thoughts.
Don't hate on me eh, just want a dialogue!

Chris
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Gypsy Rose Kim



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get where you're going with this, but I'm sure someone else will be along with the psychoanalysis and judgements soon enough.

I went to Japan the first time because I wanted to live in Tokyo. In my opinion, every other city in the world is just pretending to be a city. I was also studying part-time to get my masters in ESL (I dropped out early on and went to Japan), so I already knew I wanted to teach.

I went for Tokyo and teaching, and stayed because I came to love Japan. I now consider the Japanese to be the most highly-evolved people on the planet--by a long shot. I left for teaching, to gain perspective, and to make sure I wasn't just there because I was stuck in a rut.

I'm going back because, after a year in Australia, some travelling, and two years in Korea, I know for sure that Japan kicks all other countries' asses BIG TIME.
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Chris_Travel_the_world



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just interested in hearing what people have to say about why they chose Japan. I think I'll be staying here for a while and I was just curious. I know curiosity is often viewed as a sin around here. Just for arguement's sake, in what way does Japan kick all our countries ...you know what?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was just wondering why people are still coming to Japan?


Despite everything you wrote, the answers are probably still (in no particular order):

1) money. Still lots of secondhand and old information floating around. Plus, many people who live in larger cities like London or NYC feel that the costs in Japan are comparable, not more expensive, so they don't see that as a barrier.

2) culture. The allure of the Orient will always be there, whether for older culture or modern culture. Japanese may not be taught in a lot of countries, but there still seem to be lots of Japanese majors. And, there are many people who are here because they had a wonderful experience on a homestay or exchange program and just want to return for a longer stay.

3) women. Yeah, the rumors still abound, and yes, it's still plenty of reason for some guys.

4) easy work for easy money. You know the drill for eikaiwas and JET program.

5) being treated like a rock star. Sorry, it still happens, even though people find out later that sometimes that status is not as good as it may seem, or that it may work against them.

6) desire to learn Japanese. Immersion is a wonderful thing to break away from a textbook.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gypsy Rose Kim wrote:
I now consider the Japanese to be the most highly-evolved people on the planet--by a long shot.

I know for sure that Japan kicks all other countries' asses BIG TIME.


What exactly do you mean by this? You're not Ishihara perchance are you? Can't be, you can write in English.
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sidjameson



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a good question Chris. Here are just some observations, but forgive their random nature I haven't even eaten breakfast yet. Smile

People DONT think about things too much. Most people are in Osaka, NY, Manchester, Cape Town etc not because that's where they have chosen to live after considering all the options, but because there's where they ended up by birth or after a little bit of energy got them to move a little bit.

All talk about globalization aside it is still rather difficult for most people to work in a foreign country. Japan has a demand and so its possible to live here.

Most people aren't adventurers. I ended up getting into teaching because I ran out of money in Indonesia and wanted to stay. Most come to Japan simply because NOVA et al hire from abroad. It's easy, safe and guaranteed travelling.

Japan is an exceptionally easy country for a foreigner to live in. Anybody who doesn't know that simply hasn't travelled very much.

Despite what you say Japan still has some major pluses. For many here they couldn't earn the same money back home, get the same status, get the same dating success. Considering the above it's not surprising that they don't move on to find out if it is any better elsewhere.

And lastly, Japan is in fact a good option even compared to the countries you list. I couldn't work in an all male environment. China still doesn't seem to offer savings potential. The Japanese rarely cheat you. The women here dress like models (with the brains to match) I've only met kindness here, that's not the impression I get when reading the Korean boards.

Ok, ready for breakfast now. Smile
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MrCAPiTUL



Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gypsy Rose Kim wrote:
I don't get where you're going with this, but I'm sure someone else will be along with the psychoanalysis and judgements soon enough.

I went to Japan the first time because I wanted to live in Tokyo. In my opinion, every other city in the world is just pretending to be a city. I was also studying part-time to get my masters in ESL (I dropped out early on and went to Japan), so I already knew I wanted to teach.

I went for Tokyo and teaching, and stayed because I came to love Japan. I now consider the Japanese to be the most highly-evolved people on the planet--by a long shot. I left for teaching, to gain perspective, and to make sure I wasn't just there because I was stuck in a rut.

I'm going back because, after a year in Australia, some travelling, and two years in Korea, I know for sure that Japan kicks all other countries' asses BIG TIME.


Perhaps you could go more in depth with your answer?

WHY do you feel Tokyo is the best city on Earth? Why do you consider the Japanese the most highly-evolved people on the planet [also, if the Japanese are the most highly-evolved people on Earth, what does that make you? Their inferior? - ps, as for evolution: http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin - eek!]? WHY does Japan kick every other country's arse?


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canuck



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Why Japan? Reply with quote

Chris_Travel_the_world wrote:
I was just wondering why people are still coming to Japan? Granted I came, but that was in large part because I had a Japanese girlfriend at the time. If someone is looking to save money Korea is a much better choice, and the middle east a far greater one still, if you are willing to accept the dangers of it. If you are coming because you want to be treated like a rockstar, sorry no luck there either, go to China. If it's about the culture, then I am sorry to let you in on a little secret, most Japanese people know and care very little about their culture. You have to search out traditional culture and it's never very cheap, almost every temple and castle charge a fee. If it's for the women...well..they are great but is that reason enough? If you were a Japanese studies major, then why did you study Japanese studies in the first place? Kinda useless isn't it?

Don't get me wrong! I love Japan! I have a lot of friends and am having a blast! I'm now in the process debating over whether or not to stay for another year and I am wondering if I hadn't had the Japanese girlfriend if it would be a logical choice to come here.

Just looking to hear your thoughts.
Don't hate on me eh, just want a dialogue!

Chris


Some people also answered here if you want some more information.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=47597&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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